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    Re: Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation as Russians Pressed for Control of Uranium Comp

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hey there OV....

    Look, if it were someone with less of a track record of sleaze than that of the Clinton's long history of things like this, then I'd read it as just another election cycle dump, and might even be tempted to admonish our side to get real substantive arguments...I mean after 8 years of Obama, and progressives weakening this country's foreign policy, and abandoning our allies in favor of deference to an anti colonialist agenda, do we really want someone in office that is further down the path of selling out America for personal gain?

    If there is no smoking gun to these allegations, then at the very least there are some pretty eyebrow raising coincidences to the flow of cash, and deal approvals by Mrs. Clinton. I think it goes to her character, and thereby disqualifies her to be anywhere near the levers of power again....If she were smart she'd bow out, and accept her golden years from the sidelines, and count her lucky stars that none of this surfaced during her time actually IN office, otherwise she'd have run the risk of being in prison at this time...

    Now, can she do that? probably not, so the absolute destruction of the progressive political force continues....Last time they got busted overstepping in the early 20th century, their ideas were so abhorrent, that they were forced underground for 100 years....This could be worse.
    If it is proven that Hillary Clinton did enter into a quid pro quo agreement as Sec. of State, then I wouldn't call it part of a progressive agenda. It's more like an "opportunity" to take advantage of business activity from which the foundation towhich her family runs could profit. While we'd like to think no politician holding public office would do anything to gain a financial advantage while in office, truth is they all seek out that gray area within the rules and hope that they're clever enough not to get caught. Tom Delay comes immediately to mind here. Difference here is there was proof of his wrong doing. The evidence has yet to present itself here. But as they say about innuendo and speculation, "perception is everything". And this could be that first but most powerful salvo in gutter politics for the 2016 presidential election that could break Hillary's campaign bid. Time will tell...

    Sidenote: If Hillary Clinton ends up bowing out or losing the Democratic nomination because her name was smeared so badly that the mere perception of wrong doing was too great for her to recover or the truth to win out, then I will give Rand Paul and the author of this book much credit for "a well played game of gutter politics". But it wouldn't endear me to Rand Paul, the candidate.
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    Re: Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation as Russians Pressed for Control of Uranium Comp

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    If it is proven that Hillary Clinton did enter into a quid pro quo agreement as Sec. of State, then I wouldn't call it part of a progressive agenda. It's more like an "opportunity" to take advantage of business activity from which the foundation towhich her family runs could profit. While we'd like to think no politician holding public office would do anything to gain a financial advantage while in office, truth is they all seek out that gray area within the rules and hope that they're clever enough not to get caught. Tom Delay comes immediately to mind here. Difference here is there was proof of his wrong doing. The evidence has yet to present itself here. But as they say about innuendo and speculation, "perception is everything". And this could be that first but most powerful salvo in gutter politics for the 2016 presidential election that could break Hillary's campaign bid. Time will tell...

    Sidenote: If Hillary Clinton ends up bowing out or losing the Democratic nomination because her name was smeared so badly that the mere perception of wrong doing was too great for her to recover or the truth to win out, then I will give Rand Paul and the author of this book much credit for "a well played game of gutter politics". But it wouldn't endear me to Rand Paul, the candidate.
    There was no direct evidence of a quid pro quo arrangement with Bob McDonnell (former Virginia Governor) either, but he was still sentenced to 2 years in prison, along with his wife, for public corruption.

    What the McDonnell's got was chump change compared to the Clintons. Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea reportedly got over $8 million in travel expenses in one year.

    Anybody else curious what 60% of the Foundation's enormous income classified as "Other" actually went to ??

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    Re: Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation as Russians Pressed for Control of Uranium Comp

    I'm curious about all of it.

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    Re: Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation as Russians Pressed for Control of Uranium Comp

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    If it is proven that Hillary Clinton did enter into a quid pro quo agreement as Sec. of State
    TBH, it won't be. These things are almost never made explicit, and certainly someone as paranoid as the Clinton's wouldn't do so.


    then I wouldn't call it part of a progressive agenda. It's more like an "opportunity" to take advantage of business activity from which the foundation towhich her family runs could profit. While we'd like to think no politician holding public office would do anything to gain a financial advantage while in office, truth is they all seek out that gray area within the rules and hope that they're clever enough not to get caught. Tom Delay comes immediately to mind here. Difference here is there was proof of his wrong doing. The evidence has yet to present itself here. But as they say about innuendo and speculation, "perception is everything". And this could be that first but most powerful salvo in gutter politics for the 2016 presidential election that could break Hillary's campaign bid. Time will tell...
    I'm not sure how pointing out that she probably took bribes is "gutter politics". That seems like the sort of thing that (given especially that we are in the nascent phase of the primary season) both sides ought to think should come out.
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    Re: Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation as Russians Pressed for Control of Uranium Comp

    Bottom line, if hillary is nominated, then democrat = corruption
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