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    Re: Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation as Russians Pressed for Control of Uranium Comp

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Interesting that the federal government is involved in M&A in US companies, but something like this sneaks by unopposed. I would have thought that it would have stepped in on grounds of uranium being of national security interest.
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    The Clintons seem to have a thought process that only looks toward their future and how it may benefit them personally and monetarily. That isn't too unusual, I guess, since we probably all do that to some degree - it's human nature. This case, however, if far more important, IMO. For one thing, both were in positions of power that most of never have the opportunity to reach - Bill as the POTUS who signed NAFTA, which accelerated out-sourcing of our jobs, as one example, and Hillary as SoS who made a deal with a country who is competing with us in areas that threaten our national security...giving Russia control of 20% of the world's uranium. I can't believe that she had the singlehanded authority to broker that deal without running it through our Defense Department or some other area of our government. Didn't she have to explain what she was doing to anybody? This is mind-boggling to me, and I'd like to hear more about this, since I apparently don't have all the facts on how this was even possible! Even the President has more constraints on what he can do, and if he did indeed approve this deal I'd like to hear the reasons why!

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    Re: Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation as Russians Pressed for Control of Uranium Comp

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Erik.

    The Clintons seem to have a thought process that only looks toward their future and how it may benefit them personally and monetarily. That isn't too unusual, I guess, since we probably all do that to some degree - it's human nature. This case, however, if far more important, IMO. For one thing, both were in positions of power that most of never have the opportunity to reach - Bill as the POTUS who signed NAFTA, which accelerated out-sourcing of our jobs, as one example, and Hillary as SoS who made a deal with a country who is competing with us in areas that threaten our national security...giving Russia control of 20% of the world's uranium. I can't believe that she had the singlehanded authority to broker that deal without running it through our Defense Department or some other area of our government. Didn't she have to explain what she was doing to anybody? This is mind-boggling to me, and I'd like to hear more about this, since I apparently don't have all the facts on how this was even possible! Even the President has more constraints on what he can do, and if he did indeed approve this deal I'd like to hear the reasons why!
    Greetings, Polgara.

    My impression is that the Clintons are always operating on the limit being what they can get away with - and pushing that the extreme edge and sometimes beyond, and not what good for anyone else; not what's good for the country; and not guided by any sort of common moral compass. They may very well be among the small list of completely amoral people, their conscious only salved by the alleged actions of their foundation.

    I think this being the very definition of 'limousine liberal'.
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    Re: Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation as Russians Pressed for Control of Uranium Comp

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Erik.

    The Clintons seem to have a thought process that only looks toward their future and how it may benefit them personally and monetarily. That isn't too unusual, I guess, since we probably all do that to some degree - it's human nature. This case, however, if far more important, IMO. For one thing, both were in positions of power that most of never have the opportunity to reach - Bill as the POTUS who signed NAFTA, which accelerated out-sourcing of our jobs, as one example, and Hillary as SoS who made a deal with a country who is competing with us in areas that threaten our national security...giving Russia control of 20% of the world's uranium. I can't believe that she had the singlehanded authority to broker that deal without running it through our Defense Department or some other area of our government. Didn't she have to explain what she was doing to anybody? This is mind-boggling to me, and I'd like to hear more about this, since I apparently don't have all the facts on how this was even possible! Even the President has more constraints on what he can do, and if he did indeed approve this deal I'd like to hear the reasons why!
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    Re: Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation as Russians Pressed for Control of Uranium Comp

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    This is the second story like this I've come across this morning... At this rate, I don't think Hillary will ever make it to election day.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us...w-nytimes&_r=2
    Before getting too bent out of shape over this, I think people should read the entire article particularly the last two paragraphs:

    In a statement, Brian Fallon, a spokesman for Mrs. Clinton’s presidential campaign, said no one “has ever produced a shred of evidence supporting the theory that Hillary Clinton ever took action as secretary of state to support the interests of donors to the Clinton Foundation.” He emphasized that multiple United States agencies, as well as the Canadian government, had signed off on the deal and that, in general, such matters were handled at a level below the secretary. “To suggest the State Department, under then-Secretary Clinton, exerted undue influence in the U.S. government’s review of the sale of Uranium One is utterly baseless,” he added.

    American political campaigns are barred from accepting foreign donations. But foreigners may give to foundations in the United States. In the days since Mrs. Clinton announced her candidacy for president, the Clinton Foundation has announced changes meant to quell longstanding concerns about potential conflicts of interest in such donations; it has limited donations from foreign governments, with many, like Russia’s, barred from giving to all but its health care initiatives. That policy stops short of Mrs. Clinton’s agreement with the Obama administration, which prohibited all foreign government donations while she served as the nation’s top diplomat.
    While not a Hillary supporter, I'd rather a person go down because the evidence clearly shows wrong doing. So, until someone can present the documents with Hillary's signature on them leaving no doubt that she approved such a deal, I think all you have here is conjecture. But it's pretty strong "circumstantial evidence" for sure which is exactly what the anti-Hillary Clinton crowd wants - anything to raise doubt and slander her. As I said previously about this tactic by the book's author and Right-wingers, "Well played". Now, let's just see how well it sticks.
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    Re: Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation as Russians Pressed for Control of Uranium Comp

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Interesting that the federal government is involved in M&A in US companies, but something like this sneaks by unopposed. I would have thought that it would have stepped in on grounds of uranium being of national security interest.
    Oh it absolutely does...From what I understand, acquisitions like this have to be be approved by State, and voted on by a panel of I think it was 9 cabinet level Secretaries....Now, Hillary and her supporters would love to keep saying that she had nothing to do with this, but, anyone of the Secretaries has 'veto' vote and the deal won't go through....
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    Re: Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation as Russians Pressed for Control of Uranium Comp

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Before getting too bent out of shape over this, I think people should read the entire article particularly the last two paragraphs:



    While not a Hillary supporter, I'd rather a person go down because the evidence clearly shows wrong doing. So, until someone can present the documents with Hillary's signature on them leaving no doubt that she approved such a deal, I think all you have here is conjecture. But it's pretty strong "circumstantial evidence" for sure which is exactly what the anti-Hillary Clinton crowd wants - anything to raise doubt and slander her. As I said previously about this tactic by the book's author and Right-wingers, "Well played". Now, let's just see how well it sticks.
    Hey there OV....

    Look, if it were someone with less of a track record of sleaze than that of the Clinton's long history of things like this, then I'd read it as just another election cycle dump, and might even be tempted to admonish our side to get real substantive arguments...I mean after 8 years of Obama, and progressives weakening this country's foreign policy, and abandoning our allies in favor of deference to an anti colonialist agenda, do we really want someone in office that is further down the path of selling out America for personal gain?

    If there is no smoking gun to these allegations, then at the very least there are some pretty eyebrow raising coincidences to the flow of cash, and deal approvals by Mrs. Clinton. I think it goes to her character, and thereby disqualifies her to be anywhere near the levers of power again....If she were smart she'd bow out, and accept her golden years from the sidelines, and count her lucky stars that none of this surfaced during her time actually IN office, otherwise she'd have run the risk of being in prison at this time...

    Now, can she do that? probably not, so the absolute destruction of the progressive political force continues....Last time they got busted overstepping in the early 20th century, their ideas were so abhorrent, that they were forced underground for 100 years....This could be worse.
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    Re: Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation as Russians Pressed for Control of Uranium Comp

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh it absolutely does...From what I understand, acquisitions like this have to be be approved by State, and voted on by a panel of I think it was 9 cabinet level Secretaries....Now, Hillary and her supporters would love to keep saying that she had nothing to do with this, but, anyone of the Secretaries has 'veto' vote and the deal won't go through....
    Yeah, I caught that on the Sunday talkies.

    9 cabinet members, any one of which can veto the deal, yet handing over 20% control of US uranium to Putin was acceptable to them all somehow?

    Are these people that stupid? Or that corrupt? Or that paid for? Hmmm. Does make you wonder.
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    Re: Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation as Russians Pressed for Control of Uranium Comp

    It's funny and sad to see Democrats in this thread insisting that the Clintons taking in millions from Russian corporations while deciding (favorably) on business deals in US uranium is perfectly normal while in the Wisconsin John Doe thread they insist the secret home invasions were perfectly justified because the people might be breaking the law.

    It's like they don't even want to pretend anymore that they want anything other than a Democrat run police state.
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    Re: Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation as Russians Pressed for Control of Uranium Comp

    As a former government official (elected and appointed and one looking to be Prez) she should be running away from anything that cast even the appearance of impropriety. But no, she boldly embraces it in a catch me if you can aura of arrogance.
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