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Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation as Russians Pressed for Control of Uranium Company

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You know, every time someone brings this up in person I ask them this:

When Hillary Clinton made that remark, what was the question she was responding to?

You know how many correct answers I've received?

Zero.

I'll tell you, nothing makes a difference to Hillery.
 
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Why let context get in the way of a fun soundbite? Hell, they're still flogging "you didn't build that."

And "I can see Russia from my house".
 
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if nothing else, this matter documents how profoundly blind hillary can be to political optics, by her tolerating this appearance of a possible conflict of interest
that alone should disqualify her from being viewed as an appropriate candidate for the presidency
 
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if nothing else, this matter documents how profoundly blind hillary can be to political optics, by her tolerating this appearance of a possible conflict of interest
that alone should disqualify her from being viewed as an appropriate candidate for the presidency

Greedy people. It's hard to imagine why someone with all that money would want to be president with all the hassle and gray hair that entails. Money isn't enough. Gotta have power too. Time for the Clintons to retire.
 
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if nothing else, this matter documents how profoundly blind hillary can be to political optics, by her tolerating this appearance of a possible conflict of interest
that alone should disqualify her from being viewed as an appropriate candidate for the presidency
I agree. This is an additional taint on her judgement and apparent lack of ethical compass. Even liberals are beginning to question Hillary's deficit of basic common sense.

Citing concerns about conflict of interest and influence by foreign donors, the liberal advocacy group Common Cause has now called for an independent investigation of the Clinton Foundation. It's Board Chairman is Robert Reich, Bill Clinton's Labor Secretary and a transition adviser to Barack Obama.

Common Cause Urges Independent Audit of Donations to Clinton Foundation
 
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ah, NOW such contributions are seen as bribes

when the supreme court took up the citizens united case your side found contributions to be a form of free speech

what changed
When Bibi came to speak to congress, you saw it as meddling in their elections, now foreign governments give millions of undisclosed money, and deals magically seem to get done in their favor and you don't see the problem?

Russia now controls 20% of our Uramium...!!! That's ok with you?
 
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Hillary and Bill should be arrested and their foundation should be confiscated and the assets rolled into our defense department.

The punishment for this treason should be that they spent the rest of their lives in the same cell.
Cruel and unusual
 
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Yes I know, it will be just like Bill Clinton not winning in 1996.
Hahaha! Delusional
 
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No. I think they want OMalley.
Oh God...Mr. tax the rain water run off..
 
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When Bibi came to speak to congress, you saw it as meddling in their elections, now foreign governments give millions of undisclosed money, and deals magically seem to get done in their favor and you don't see the problem?

Russia now controls 20% of our Uramium...!!! That's ok with you?

Interesting that the federal government is involved in M&A in US companies, but something like this sneaks by unopposed. I would have thought that it would have stepped in on grounds of uranium being of national security interest. :shrug:
 
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Interesting that the federal government is involved in M&A in US companies, but something like this sneaks by unopposed. I would have thought that it would have stepped in on grounds of uranium being of national security interest. :shrug:

Greetings, Erik. :2wave:

The Clintons seem to have a thought process that only looks toward their future and how it may benefit them personally and monetarily. That isn't too unusual, I guess, since we probably all do that to some degree - it's human nature. This case, however, if far more important, IMO. For one thing, both were in positions of power that most of never have the opportunity to reach - Bill as the POTUS who signed NAFTA, which accelerated out-sourcing of our jobs, as one example, and Hillary as SoS who made a deal with a country who is competing with us in areas that threaten our national security...giving Russia control of 20% of the world's uranium. I can't believe that she had the singlehanded authority to broker that deal without running it through our Defense Department or some other area of our government. Didn't she have to explain what she was doing to anybody? This is mind-boggling to me, and I'd like to hear more about this, since I apparently don't have all the facts on how this was even possible! Even the President has more constraints on what he can do, and if he did indeed approve this deal I'd like to hear the reasons why!
 
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Greetings, Erik. :2wave:

The Clintons seem to have a thought process that only looks toward their future and how it may benefit them personally and monetarily. That isn't too unusual, I guess, since we probably all do that to some degree - it's human nature. This case, however, if far more important, IMO. For one thing, both were in positions of power that most of never have the opportunity to reach - Bill as the POTUS who signed NAFTA, which accelerated out-sourcing of our jobs, as one example, and Hillary as SoS who made a deal with a country who is competing with us in areas that threaten our national security...giving Russia control of 20% of the world's uranium. I can't believe that she had the singlehanded authority to broker that deal without running it through our Defense Department or some other area of our government. Didn't she have to explain what she was doing to anybody? This is mind-boggling to me, and I'd like to hear more about this, since I apparently don't have all the facts on how this was even possible! Even the President has more constraints on what he can do, and if he did indeed approve this deal I'd like to hear the reasons why!

Greetings, Polgara. :2wave:

My impression is that the Clintons are always operating on the limit being what they can get away with - and pushing that the extreme edge and sometimes beyond, and not what good for anyone else; not what's good for the country; and not guided by any sort of common moral compass. They may very well be among the small list of completely amoral people, their conscious only salved by the alleged actions of their foundation.

I think this being the very definition of 'limousine liberal'.
 
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Greetings, Erik. :2wave:

The Clintons seem to have a thought process that only looks toward their future and how it may benefit them personally and monetarily. That isn't too unusual, I guess, since we probably all do that to some degree - it's human nature. This case, however, if far more important, IMO. For one thing, both were in positions of power that most of never have the opportunity to reach - Bill as the POTUS who signed NAFTA, which accelerated out-sourcing of our jobs, as one example, and Hillary as SoS who made a deal with a country who is competing with us in areas that threaten our national security...giving Russia control of 20% of the world's uranium. I can't believe that she had the singlehanded authority to broker that deal without running it through our Defense Department or some other area of our government. Didn't she have to explain what she was doing to anybody? This is mind-boggling to me, and I'd like to hear more about this, since I apparently don't have all the facts on how this was even possible! Even the President has more constraints on what he can do, and if he did indeed approve this deal I'd like to hear the reasons why!

Greetings, Miss P. :2wave:

Great point, the plot thickens!
 
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This is the second story like this I've come across this morning... At this rate, I don't think Hillary will ever make it to election day.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/u....html?partner=socialflow&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=2

Before getting too bent out of shape over this, I think people should read the entire article particularly the last two paragraphs:

In a statement, Brian Fallon, a spokesman for Mrs. Clinton’s presidential campaign, said no one “has ever produced a shred of evidence supporting the theory that Hillary Clinton ever took action as secretary of state to support the interests of donors to the Clinton Foundation.” He emphasized that multiple United States agencies, as well as the Canadian government, had signed off on the deal and that, in general, such matters were handled at a level below the secretary. “To suggest the State Department, under then-Secretary Clinton, exerted undue influence in the U.S. government’s review of the sale of Uranium One is utterly baseless,” he added.

American political campaigns are barred from accepting foreign donations. But foreigners may give to foundations in the United States. In the days since Mrs. Clinton announced her candidacy for president, the Clinton Foundation has announced changes meant to quell longstanding concerns about potential conflicts of interest in such donations; it has limited donations from foreign governments, with many, like Russia’s, barred from giving to all but its health care initiatives. That policy stops short of Mrs. Clinton’s agreement with the Obama administration, which prohibited all foreign government donations while she served as the nation’s top diplomat.

While not a Hillary supporter, I'd rather a person go down because the evidence clearly shows wrong doing. So, until someone can present the documents with Hillary's signature on them leaving no doubt that she approved such a deal, I think all you have here is conjecture. But it's pretty strong "circumstantial evidence" for sure which is exactly what the anti-Hillary Clinton crowd wants - anything to raise doubt and slander her. As I said previously about this tactic by the book's author and Right-wingers, "Well played". Now, let's just see how well it sticks.
 
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Interesting that the federal government is involved in M&A in US companies, but something like this sneaks by unopposed. I would have thought that it would have stepped in on grounds of uranium being of national security interest. :shrug:

Oh it absolutely does...From what I understand, acquisitions like this have to be be approved by State, and voted on by a panel of I think it was 9 cabinet level Secretaries....Now, Hillary and her supporters would love to keep saying that she had nothing to do with this, but, anyone of the Secretaries has 'veto' vote and the deal won't go through....
 
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Before getting too bent out of shape over this, I think people should read the entire article particularly the last two paragraphs:



While not a Hillary supporter, I'd rather a person go down because the evidence clearly shows wrong doing. So, until someone can present the documents with Hillary's signature on them leaving no doubt that she approved such a deal, I think all you have here is conjecture. But it's pretty strong "circumstantial evidence" for sure which is exactly what the anti-Hillary Clinton crowd wants - anything to raise doubt and slander her. As I said previously about this tactic by the book's author and Right-wingers, "Well played". Now, let's just see how well it sticks.

Hey there OV....

Look, if it were someone with less of a track record of sleaze than that of the Clinton's long history of things like this, then I'd read it as just another election cycle dump, and might even be tempted to admonish our side to get real substantive arguments...I mean after 8 years of Obama, and progressives weakening this country's foreign policy, and abandoning our allies in favor of deference to an anti colonialist agenda, do we really want someone in office that is further down the path of selling out America for personal gain?

If there is no smoking gun to these allegations, then at the very least there are some pretty eyebrow raising coincidences to the flow of cash, and deal approvals by Mrs. Clinton. I think it goes to her character, and thereby disqualifies her to be anywhere near the levers of power again....If she were smart she'd bow out, and accept her golden years from the sidelines, and count her lucky stars that none of this surfaced during her time actually IN office, otherwise she'd have run the risk of being in prison at this time...

Now, can she do that? probably not, so the absolute destruction of the progressive political force continues....Last time they got busted overstepping in the early 20th century, their ideas were so abhorrent, that they were forced underground for 100 years....This could be worse.
 
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Oh it absolutely does...From what I understand, acquisitions like this have to be be approved by State, and voted on by a panel of I think it was 9 cabinet level Secretaries....Now, Hillary and her supporters would love to keep saying that she had nothing to do with this, but, anyone of the Secretaries has 'veto' vote and the deal won't go through....

Yeah, I caught that on the Sunday talkies.

9 cabinet members, any one of which can veto the deal, yet handing over 20% control of US uranium to Putin was acceptable to them all somehow?

Are these people that stupid? Or that corrupt? Or that paid for? Hmmm. Does make you wonder.
 
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It's funny and sad to see Democrats in this thread insisting that the Clintons taking in millions from Russian corporations while deciding (favorably) on business deals in US uranium is perfectly normal while in the Wisconsin John Doe thread they insist the secret home invasions were perfectly justified because the people might be breaking the law.

It's like they don't even want to pretend anymore that they want anything other than a Democrat run police state.
 
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As a former government official (elected and appointed and one looking to be Prez) she should be running away from anything that cast even the appearance of impropriety. But no, she boldly embraces it in a catch me if you can aura of arrogance.
 
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Hey there OV....

Look, if it were someone with less of a track record of sleaze than that of the Clinton's long history of things like this, then I'd read it as just another election cycle dump, and might even be tempted to admonish our side to get real substantive arguments...I mean after 8 years of Obama, and progressives weakening this country's foreign policy, and abandoning our allies in favor of deference to an anti colonialist agenda, do we really want someone in office that is further down the path of selling out America for personal gain?

If there is no smoking gun to these allegations, then at the very least there are some pretty eyebrow raising coincidences to the flow of cash, and deal approvals by Mrs. Clinton. I think it goes to her character, and thereby disqualifies her to be anywhere near the levers of power again....If she were smart she'd bow out, and accept her golden years from the sidelines, and count her lucky stars that none of this surfaced during her time actually IN office, otherwise she'd have run the risk of being in prison at this time...

Now, can she do that? probably not, so the absolute destruction of the progressive political force continues....Last time they got busted overstepping in the early 20th century, their ideas were so abhorrent, that they were forced underground for 100 years....This could be worse.

If it is proven that Hillary Clinton did enter into a quid pro quo agreement as Sec. of State, then I wouldn't call it part of a progressive agenda. It's more like an "opportunity" to take advantage of business activity from which the foundation towhich her family runs could profit. While we'd like to think no politician holding public office would do anything to gain a financial advantage while in office, truth is they all seek out that gray area within the rules and hope that they're clever enough not to get caught. Tom Delay comes immediately to mind here. Difference here is there was proof of his wrong doing. The evidence has yet to present itself here. But as they say about innuendo and speculation, "perception is everything". And this could be that first but most powerful salvo in gutter politics for the 2016 presidential election that could break Hillary's campaign bid. Time will tell...

Sidenote: If Hillary Clinton ends up bowing out or losing the Democratic nomination because her name was smeared so badly that the mere perception of wrong doing was too great for her to recover or the truth to win out, then I will give Rand Paul and the author of this book much credit for "a well played game of gutter politics". But it wouldn't endear me to Rand Paul, the candidate.
 
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If it is proven that Hillary Clinton did enter into a quid pro quo agreement as Sec. of State, then I wouldn't call it part of a progressive agenda. It's more like an "opportunity" to take advantage of business activity from which the foundation towhich her family runs could profit. While we'd like to think no politician holding public office would do anything to gain a financial advantage while in office, truth is they all seek out that gray area within the rules and hope that they're clever enough not to get caught. Tom Delay comes immediately to mind here. Difference here is there was proof of his wrong doing. The evidence has yet to present itself here. But as they say about innuendo and speculation, "perception is everything". And this could be that first but most powerful salvo in gutter politics for the 2016 presidential election that could break Hillary's campaign bid. Time will tell...

Sidenote: If Hillary Clinton ends up bowing out or losing the Democratic nomination because her name was smeared so badly that the mere perception of wrong doing was too great for her to recover or the truth to win out, then I will give Rand Paul and the author of this book much credit for "a well played game of gutter politics". But it wouldn't endear me to Rand Paul, the candidate.

There was no direct evidence of a quid pro quo arrangement with Bob McDonnell (former Virginia Governor) either, but he was still sentenced to 2 years in prison, along with his wife, for public corruption.

What the McDonnell's got was chump change compared to the Clintons. Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea reportedly got over $8 million in travel expenses in one year.

Anybody else curious what 60% of the Foundation's enormous income classified as "Other" actually went to ??
 
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I'm curious about all of it.
 
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If it is proven that Hillary Clinton did enter into a quid pro quo agreement as Sec. of State

TBH, it won't be. These things are almost never made explicit, and certainly someone as paranoid as the Clinton's wouldn't do so.


then I wouldn't call it part of a progressive agenda. It's more like an "opportunity" to take advantage of business activity from which the foundation towhich her family runs could profit. While we'd like to think no politician holding public office would do anything to gain a financial advantage while in office, truth is they all seek out that gray area within the rules and hope that they're clever enough not to get caught. Tom Delay comes immediately to mind here. Difference here is there was proof of his wrong doing. The evidence has yet to present itself here. But as they say about innuendo and speculation, "perception is everything". And this could be that first but most powerful salvo in gutter politics for the 2016 presidential election that could break Hillary's campaign bid. Time will tell...

I'm not sure how pointing out that she probably took bribes is "gutter politics". That seems like the sort of thing that (given especially that we are in the nascent phase of the primary season) both sides ought to think should come out.
 
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Bottom line, if hillary is nominated, then democrat = corruption
 
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