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    American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    A U.S. drone strike in January targeting a suspected al Qaeda compound in Pakistan inadvertently killed an American and Italian being held hostage by the group, senior Obama administration officials said.
    The killing of American development expert Warren Weinstein and Italian aid worker Giovanni Lo Porto is the first known instance in which the U.S. has accidentally killed a hostage in a drone strike.

    The mishap represents a major blow to the Central Intelligence Agency and its covert drone program in Pakistan, which President Barack Obama embraced and expanded after coming to office in 2009.


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    Incredibly unfortunate. One of the major problems with our drone war program, incredibly difficult to verify who you are targeting, and confirming if the target was killed or who else was killed by the strike. RIP, and thoughts go out to the families.



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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Incredibly unfortunate. One of the major problems with our drone war program, incredibly difficult to verify who you are targeting, and confirming if the target was killed or who else was killed by the strike. RIP, and thoughts go out to the families.

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    It is certainly much more precise than other types of at-distance warfare. But if you prefer sending in troops, it is another matter all together.

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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    It is certainly much more precise than other types of at-distance warfare. But if you prefer sending in troops, it is another matter all together.
    Im actually in favor of ending our drone war program as it currently stands.


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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    It is certainly much more precise than other types of at-distance warfare. But if you prefer sending in troops, it is another matter all together.
    Sending in special forces (for example in the case of Bin Laden) would appear to be more effective both in terms of getting the guy you intend to get and in terms of not killing scores of innocents in the process. It amazes me that neither of these seem to be a priority.

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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Funny how the OP and the accompanying article place the blame at the feet of the CIA as opposed to the President who authorizes all of these drone strikes. If an American, just out doing their job or minding their own business, happens to kill a fellow American mistakenly or completely by accident, they're likely to be charged with negligent homicide or involuntary manslaughter. I guess being an irresponsible President gives you a get our of jail free card.
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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Incredibly unfortunate. One of the major problems with our drone war program, incredibly difficult to verify who you are targeting, and confirming if the target was killed or who else was killed by the strike. RIP, and thoughts go out to the families.

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    This is why "boots on the ground" is often better than "guns in the sky". There's no hard and fast "one size fits all" solution to these kind of situations, but this does illustrate why we still need hard men, doing a hard job to go in handle certain situations. The tough part is figuring out when to use which tactic. In this case, we have the benefit of 20/20 hindsight to guide us, so it's obvious that the wrong tactic was used. What's needed is a clearer set of standards to determine when to kill the bad guys from far away and when to get up close and personal.
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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Sending in special forces (for example in the case of Bin Laden) would appear to be more effective both in terms of getting the guy you intend to get and in terms of not killing scores of innocents in the process. It amazes me that neither of these seem to be a priority.
    Thats because not only is sending in a spec ops team more expensive, it also is more risky. Its cheaper and less risky just to drone strike targets because if something goes wrong, all you lose is the drone...

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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Im actually in favor of ending our drone war program as it currently stands.
    The key here is the phrase "as it stands". Simply ending it completely isn't the answer since there are situations where a drone strike is absolutely the best solution. What we need is a solution that fixes the current program's shortcomings. Simply tossing the whole nine yards isn't the answer, we need to fix the problems and make drones functional weapons in the right situations.
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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Thats because not only is sending in a spec ops team more expensive, it also is more risky. Its cheaper and less risky just to drone strike targets because if something goes wrong, all you lose is the drone...
    And scores of innocent lives.

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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Funny how the OP and the accompanying article place the blame at the feet of the CIA as opposed to the President who authorizes all of these drone strikes. If an American, just out doing their job or minding their own business, happens to kill a fellow American mistakenly or completely by accident, they're likely to be charged with negligent homicide or involuntary manslaughter. I guess being an irresponsible President gives you a get our of jail free card.
    Yep, it does. We gave one to Bush, too!
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