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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Training a Soldier for these kind of operations is very expensive.
    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Um no.. training a soldier is much more expensive. You are looking at $1m before they are actually deployed.
    In regards to just the production cost, yes, drones are cheaper. But they also cause much more collateral damage, are less flexible in how they can be used, incapable of adapting to changing situations (as someone stated earlier, the only real options available whenever something changes are continue mission or abort mission), and they are unpopular with a lot of people. Overall, they have a very high opportunity cost compared to just sending in soldiers.

    edit: Oh, and soldiers don't burn thousands of dollars of revenue every hour they spend in the field, and recruit way fewer terrorists than the drones do.

    The cost per flight hour varies by type of drone. Predator and Reaper drones cost about $2,500-3,500 per flight hour; larger armed systems such as the military’s Global Hawk cost about 10 times as much: approximately $30,000 per flight hour.
    Evidence suggests that the trauma of living under drones causes anti-American resentment and aids in the recruitment for violent extremism. According to a former State Department official, for every drone strike, the U.S. generates roughly forty to sixty new enemies. Such long term damage is known as “blowback” – incidents that arise in later years as an unintended consequence of actions taken today.

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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    In other words: "This discussion exceeds both my mental abilities and the strict boundaries of my ideology, so instead of actually being a part of a discussion, I'm just going spitball the smart people."
    Not really. I've long posted my opposition to drone warfare. Just moved by the "faithful servants" support of it! Typical.
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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    So its okay to kill hostages to get after the terrorists now?
    Warmongers don't concern themselves with "collateral damage"!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Thats because not only is sending in a spec ops team more expensive, it also is more risky. Its cheaper and less risky just to drone strike targets because if something goes wrong, all you lose is the drone...
    And, in this case, the hostages...
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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    So its okay to kill hostages to get after the terrorists now?
    The responsibility for the hostages deaths is with the hostage takers, end of.

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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You can count on "unfriendlies" developing and deploying this technology. Every weapons system America ever develops eventually gets copied by its enemies. In this case, if they follow the practices of America, you may find Americans being targeted by drones all over the world - and not just politicians or leaders - average Americans on vacation or traveling. The same argument that many use against "torture" can also be used against drones. On the battlefield, perfectly acceptable - in sovereign countries, not at war with you, not acceptable.
    We are at war with AQ and ISIS and will fight and kill them anywhere in the world no place on earth will ever be safe from the reach of the US and if you don't like it to ****ing bad. The assertion that drones are somehow worse than using manned aircraft is nonsensical bull****.

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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Not really. I've long posted my opposition to drone warfare. Just moved by the "faithful servants" support of it! Typical.
    I stated that there times and places to use them and times and places not to use them. That's called "the intelligent approach". To simply state that they are bad all the time is "the not so intelligent approach".
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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Incredibly unfortunate. One of the major problems with our drone war program, incredibly difficult to verify who you are targeting, and confirming if the target was killed or who else was killed by the strike. RIP, and thoughts go out to the families.

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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    I think some people in this thread have seen "Rambo" a few too many times.
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