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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Under past administrations, maybe so - if America can move to put some trust in an unchanged administration in Iran, surely giving Pakistan a chance in such situations going forward is rational unless America wants to be actively involved in the region forever.
    The US will be actively involved in the region forever. That is already a given.
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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

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    You watch too many movies.
    Care to explain the link to me?

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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    There is. 9/11 was planned from some shack in some godforsaken desert, as most other major terror attacks were.
    And every major terrorist attack planned since 9/11 has been thwarted by intelligence and regular law enforcement resources in the continental US as well as by allied intelligence agencies. People on the left like to constantly bleat about waterboarding and Abu Gharib and GITMO, from which no one has been killed, as magical terrorist recruiting tools but somehow rationalize that killing innocent civilians with drone strikes is of no consequence. There isn't a greater tool to develop hatred for the US than having an innocent family member attending a wedding be sliced in two by a US drone bombing "mistake".
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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    And every major terrorist attack planned since 9/11 has been thwarted by intelligence and regular law enforcement resources in the continental US as well as by allied intelligence agencies. People on the left like to constantly bleat about waterboarding and Abu Gharib and GITMO, from which no one has been killed, as magical terrorist recruiting tools but somehow rationalize that killing innocent civilians with drone strikes is of no consequence. There isn't a greater tool to develop hatred for the US than having an innocent family member attending a wedding be sliced in two by a US drone bombing "mistake".
    No doubt about that, but there is no better alternative. Deploying forces on the ground is more costly and actually puts your soldiers, plenty of them, at risk - and most importantly; it actually increases the chances of civilian casualties, not decreases.
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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    No doubt about that, but there is no better alternative. Deploying forces on the ground is more costly and actually puts your soldiers, plenty of them, at risk - and most importantly; it actually increases the chances of civilian casualties, not decreases.
    I've never suggested putting soldiers on the ground as an alternative to drones. I'm suggesting that our allies in Pakistan and other places should be used more often in such situations. At the very least, cooperation as was the case with the former leadership in Yemen should be the rule, not the exception.

    America is not Israel, surrounded by enemies and weak friendships. The easy way out, by way of assassinations, should not be the preferred method.
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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    No, no they haven't, and I'm sure if they were alive today they'd pretty much align with your agenda seeing that there couldn't possibly be something you'd disagree on.
    If they were alive now they would have been surprised that the Isrealis behave exactly like them in their treatment of the Palestinians.

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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    I stated that there times and places to use them and times and places not to use them. That's called "the intelligent approach". To simply state that they are bad all the time is "the not so intelligent approach".
    Warfare is bad all the time, and to be avoided, were it not so profitable.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Lol. There's no such thing as an unlawful combatant despite the fact some are labeled such for convenience sake.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    If they were alive now they would have been surprised that the Isrealis behave exactly like them in their treatment of the Palestinians.
    Or rather they will be surprised that a people who suffered what they made them suffer can behave in such a moral and humane conduct when dealing with another group who wish to see them destroyed such as the radical elements within the Palestinians and their immoral supporters. Perhaps even they will feel sickened by the anti-Israeli camp. Perhaps.
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    Re: American, Italian Hostages Killed in CIA Drone Strike in January

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I've never suggested putting soldiers on the ground as an alternative to drones. I'm suggesting that our allies in Pakistan and other places should be used more often in such situations. At the very least, cooperation as was the case with the former leadership in Yemen should be the rule, not the exception.

    America is not Israel, surrounded by enemies and weak friendships. The easy way out, by way of assassinations, should not be the preferred method.
    Do you really believe Pakistan to be trustworthy when it comes to dealing with Islamic terrorists? If there was even half a truth to it then how come so many terrorists find refuge in its lands and territories?
    "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis."

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