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Pregnant Popeyes worker fired after armed robbery

"I told them I'm not paying nothing,"

There's the reason she's stuck at a low paying fast food job

Leave it to the conservatives to never miss an opportunity to **** on the poor.
 
She repeatedly violated the store policy which cost the store to lose money. An argument could be made that she should only have to pay the difference between what she was supposed to have in the drawer and the $400

No, that argument absolutely cannot be made.
 
Unless it was my business I wouldn't risk my life by not giving up the money, nor would I pay it back.

If you were the shift manager, would you leave excess money in the cash drawers after being repeatedly told not to do so. Or would you go on the philosophy that, "You ain't got to do nothin' that nobody tells you"
 
Leave it to the conservatives to never miss an opportunity to **** on the poor.
One of the ways to get out of poverty is to speak proper English which makes a good impression in a job interview
 
If you were the shift manager, would you leave excess money in the cash drawers after being repeatedly told not to do so. Or would you go on the philosophy that, "You ain't got to do nothin' that nobody tells you"



No, but I am competent. Is this what happened? was she the shift manager?

If the answer was yes, firing for that would be appropriate, demanding reparations is not.
 
From what I understand, she wasn't a clerk. She was the manager on duty, and it was her responsibility to make sure that the cash drops were done. As soon as the register meets the drop threshold, the cashier is alerted. If the register is like most registers, it alerts you every single time a transaction is made, so you don't forget.

She was warned about this before. That is why she was fired. Being as young as she is, and being pregnant with her 4th child, and struggling, makes the cynical side of me also wonder if it wasn't an inside job.

If Popeye's goes back on this and gives her her job back, then it gives all other management permission to not make timely cash drops, either. :shrug:

While I understand your point, until such time one can prove she was involved, Popeye's looks pretty clueless. The idea that someone pay back money stolen by an armed robber is beyond stupid. Think about what you are really telling people. You are in essence telling them it's their money and they better protect it.
 
"I told them I'm not paying nothing,"

So she is paying something? That's why companies have insurance unless it is specifically in the job description that they employees are responsible for breaking up robberies. I don't even think Rambo would take that job.
 
No, but I am competent. Is this what happened? was she the shift manager?

If the answer was yes, firing for that would be appropriate, demanding reparations is not.
The answer to both is yes
 
"I told them I'm not paying nothing,"

So she is paying something? That's why companies have insurance unless it is specifically in the job description that they employees are responsible for breaking up robberies. I don't even think Rambo would take that job.
She committed to paying something and doesn't even know that she did. It's no wonder she can't follow simple instructions
 
No, but I am competent. Is this what happened? was she the shift manager?

If the answer was yes, firing for that would be appropriate, demanding reparations is not.

Yes she was the shift manager, but did not say why she didn't do the required cash drops. It has been an issue for her before.
 
firing would be appropriate. demanding reparations, not so much.
Seems to be she got a choice. Compensate for her own willful failures or lose her job? Frankly, she should be relegated to the french fry machine at the very least since she's proven to be incompetent as a manager
 
Yes she was the shift manager, but did not say why she didn't do the required cash drops. It has been an issue for her before.

Cash drops are an important precaution. But at times jobs can get very frantic. It's a challenge balancing customer service during mad rushes. They could have fired her for that. But to even remotely suggest she pay back the money? C'mon!
 
Seems to be she got a choice. Compensate for her own willful failures or lose her job? Frankly, she should be relegated to the french fry machine at the very least since she's proven to be incompetent as a manager

To suggest someone pay back money stolen by an armed robber? Think about what you're saying.
 
While I understand your point, until such time one can prove she was involved, Popeye's looks pretty clueless. The idea that someone pay back money stolen by an armed robber is beyond stupid. Think about what you are really telling people. You are in essence telling them it's their money and they better protect it.

Yes but as a shift manager, it's her job to protect the company's interests, and in not making the required cash drops, she was not protecting the company's interests.

She shouldn't have to pay reparations, no. That's dumb. But I fully believe her termination should stand, as this is not the only time that she has failed to follow company policy - a policy that clearly minimizes the damage to the company's bottom line in the event of a robbery.
 
Cash drops are an important precaution. But at times jobs can get very frantic. It's a challenge balancing customer service during mad rushes. They could have fired her for that. But to even remotely suggest she pay back the money? C'mon!

Preaching to the choir, baby. Read my post quoting you. She should not have to pay reparations. That's stupid.
 
It's common practice, from what information I have, that employees are responsible for the loss of funds when they are on duty. We've had numerous situation here involving "gas and go" thefts where a couple of employees have been killed trying to catch thieves who run without paying because the employee has to cover the loss if they don't. It's why government is looking at legislation to change that practice.

As for $400 being in the register, why would a fast food outlet, where the highest order would be about $50, and that's a stretch, need or want such a large amount of money in the till? And again, here, clerks are required to take money out of a till, count and deposit it in a safe they can't open, several times during their shifts. It's the only way that many can avoid being robbed, particularly at night.

And I'm curious - why is the worker being pregnant an issue or even mentioned? Are pregnant women less capable of doing their jobs?

All that said, forcing an employee to choose between being fired or resisting an armed robbery is pretty stupid, PR wise.
 
Cash drops are an important precaution. But at times jobs can get very frantic. It's a challenge balancing customer service during mad rushes. They could have fired her for that. But to even remotely suggest she pay back the money? C'mon!
Certainly we can't hold people responsible for their own actions
 
Certainly we can't hold people responsible for their own actions

She robbed the store? I missed that. Would you please quote that part of the article?
 
And I'm curious - why is the worker being pregnant an issue or even mentioned? Are pregnant women less capable of doing their jobs?

It's supposed to make you feel sorry for her. She's extremely young anyway, and is on her 4th baby. :roll:
 
She robbed the store? I missed that. Would you please quote that part of the article?
She failed to follow simple instructions, repeatedly. Her failure resulted in a loss to the store. She should be held accountable
 
Yes but as a shift manager, it's her job to protect the company's interests, and in not making the required cash drops, she was not protecting the company's interests.

She shouldn't have to pay reparations, no. That's dumb. But I fully believe her termination should stand, as this is not the only time that she has failed to follow company policy - a policy that clearly minimizes the damage to the company's bottom line in the event of a robbery.

Actually, the $400.00 policy might not minimize the company's losses in robberies. With robberies, two things seem worth avoiding:

A. having alot of cash that attracts robbers
B. having so little cash that when robberies do occur, armed robbers feel "short changed". They then get increasingly aggitated and spend more time in the store demanding cash and valuables from the restraraunt, employees and customers.

In short, if a robbery occurs, one wants the robbers to quickly get a "good" haul (probably about $200-500 dollars in ones, fives, tens and twenties which makes it seem like even more) and then quickly leave. Things go down hill when aggitated and increasingly desperate robbers start uhmm... "interacting" with people at the store in their quest for cash.

When things go down hill, costs go up. These costs can far exceed $400 dollars.
 
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