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    Re: Pregnant Popeyes worker fired after armed robbery

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    Sure that is a good comparison, but like the UK they also have a national gun registry, which we don't have.

    Since we are using wiki and its pretty well sourced in this case: Gun politics in Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    In reality the national gun registry was overturned in 2012.

    The national gun registry was a relatively recent, and according to most Canadians I've talked to was highly controversial and much ignored. It was enacted in 1993 and overturned in 2012.

    Canadian Firearms Registry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Canadian homicide rates by firearm by year:

    1975: 1.262
    1985: 0.859
    1990: 0.708
    Notice the downward trend? Registry enacted in 1993...
    1995: 0.601
    2000: 0.600
    Notice the decline slowed?
    2005: 0.692
    then went up in 2005? During the registry?
    2010: 0.501
    Down again that year... but the registry seems to have had no real effect on what was already a downward trend..


    What later stats I can find are as follows:

    Homicides per year:

    2011: 598
    2012: 543
    2013: 505

    Continuing the downward trend you see, even after the registry was overturned.


    So there is no evidence to indicate that the registry had any positive effect.


    http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-...desc03-eng.htm

    http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tabl...gal12a-eng.htm

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    Re: Pregnant Popeyes worker fired after armed robbery

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    In reality the national gun registry was overturned in 2012.

    The national gun registry was a relatively recent, and according to most Canadians I've talked to was highly controversial and much ignored. It was enacted in 1993 and overturned in 2012.

    Canadian Firearms Registry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Canadian homicide rates by firearm by year:

    1975: 1.262
    1985: 0.859
    1990: 0.708
    Notice the downward trend? Registry enacted in 1993...
    1995: 0.601
    2000: 0.600
    Notice the decline slowed?
    2005: 0.692
    then went up in 2005? During the registry?
    2010: 0.501
    Down again that year... but the registry seems to have had no real effect on what was already a downward trend..


    What later stats I can find are as follows:

    Homicides per year:

    2011: 598
    2012: 543
    2013: 505

    Continuing the downward trend you see, even after the registry was overturned.


    So there is no evidence to indicate that the registry had any positive effect.


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    Homicide offences, number and rate, by province and territory (Number of homicides)
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    Re: Pregnant Popeyes worker fired after armed robbery

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    Ha!

    We are going so far off topic... can we split the topic for a new one? I don't know how that works, I've only recently become active on here.

    You can start a new thread in the Gun Control subforum if you like.

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    Re: Pregnant Popeyes worker fired after armed robbery

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Pregnant Popeyes worker fired after armed robbery

    Gotta wonder if the $400 was worth the publicity? I like their chicken, but mercy me, not the brightest move on their part.
    I'll never eat there again.
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    Re: Pregnant Popeyes worker fired after armed robbery

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    All of those countries have more issues with the poor/destitute, I'd love to see something along the lines of developed nations with fire arm rates near ours, but we are the highest of any developed nation.

    That is the problem with that comparison, you'll have to show me something similar among a developed nation with similar firearm ownership, but there isn't one and we are at the top of the list for developed nations.
    The problem is that most sources calculate gun ownership based on estimated guns per capita.

    That gives the US a rate of one, but many owners own more then one , I own 5 for example, and will be acquiring number six when the IRS gives me my money back.

    In many other countries owners are limited in the number they can own, either legally culturally or economically. But one can only use one at a time. If we use the rate of population who has access to a gun, we begin to see consistently across most of the developed world that were seeing between 25 and 33%

    The US rate is probably 33, but hard to calculate
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    Re: Pregnant Popeyes worker fired after armed robbery

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    The problem is that most sources calculate gun ownership based on estimated guns per capita.

    That gives the US a rate of one, but many owners own more then one , I own 5 for example, and will be acquiring number six when the IRS gives me my money back.

    In many other countries owners are limited in the number they can own, either legally culturally or economically. But one can only use one at a time. If we use the rate of population who has access to a gun, we begin to see consistently across most of the developed world that were seeing between 25 and 33%

    The US rate is probably 33, but hard to calculate
    I've seen John Wayne pull a gun off each hip and fire them simultaneously.
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    Re: Pregnant Popeyes worker fired after armed robbery

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I've seen John Wayne pull a gun off each hip and fire them simultaneously.
    The double six shooter is an invention of Hollywood, most cowboys couldn't afford two pistols those who could used the second pistol after the first one was out of ammo.

    I consider myself handy with a pistol and I couldn't do the akimbo revolvers with any level of accuracy, or shooting from the hip
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    Re: Pregnant Popeyes worker fired after armed robbery

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I've seen John Wayne pull a gun off each hip and fire them simultaneously.
    I have an audio recording of Mick Jagger admitting to killing both Kennedys!
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    Re: Pregnant Popeyes worker fired after armed robbery

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Pregnant Popeyes worker fired after armed robbery

    Gotta wonder if the $400 was worth the publicity? I like their chicken, but mercy me, not the brightest move on their part.
    She got her job back with a "gee, we're sorry". Pregnant Popeyes Manager Fired, Rehired After Refusing To Pay For Armed Robbery (UPDATE)
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    Re: Pregnant Popeyes worker fired after armed robbery

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I have an audio recording of Mick Jagger admitting to killing both Kennedys!
    I had that too. But I can't find it now.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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