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    Amnesty International condemns U.S. failure to act on torture report

    (Reuters) - Amnesty International on Tuesday accused President Barack Obama's administration of granting "de facto amnesty" to people involved in a CIA program that detained and tortured militants captured after the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States.
    The human rights group said that since the release in December of a Senate report on the use of what the Central Intelligence Agency called "enhanced interrogation techniques," the administration had done nothing to end impunity for those who mistreated prisoners.
    Amnesty researcher Naureen Shah said the administration was effectively granting immunity from prosecution by failing to thoroughly investigate conduct that came to light in the five-year investigation.
    The Senate Intelligence Committee report found that the CIA misled the White House and the American people over a program that involved torturing al Qaeda and other captives in secret facilities worldwide between 2002 and 2006.
    Amnesty released a critique of the investigation and the official response, entitled "USA Crimes and Impunity," which accused the Obama administration of trying to sweep the report and crimes committed under the program "under the carpet."


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    As always, direct human rights violations that the US condemns in other countries, but once we find ourselves partaking in such actions, is swept under the rug. US politicians release the study, but once it comes to actually taking action on their findings, its quietly silent. Obama wont convict or even further investigate the study, it just quietly put under the rug where Americans will forget about it. How can you "promote human rights overseas" when your own forces cant even uphold them? How can you "promote human rights overseas" when your own country wont even protect the others the US imprisons?
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    Re: Amnesty International condemns U.S. failure to act on torture report

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    As always, direct human rights violations that the US condemns in other countries, but once we find ourselves partaking in such actions, is swept under the rug. US politicians release the study, but once it comes to actually taking action on their findings, its quietly silent. Obama wont convict or even further investigate the study, it just quietly put under the rug where Americans will forget about it. How can you "promote human rights overseas" when your own forces cant even uphold them? How can you "promote human rights overseas" when your own country wont even protect the others the US imprisons? [/FONT]
    Obama doesn't want to torture anyone. He doesn't want to capture anyone. He'd rather just drone them to death.
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    Re: Amnesty International condemns U.S. failure to act on torture report

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Obama doesn't want to torture anyone. He doesn't want to capture anyone. He'd rather just drone them to death.
    Exactly my point. Even his own citizens without due process. And we are the authority to say what is just or not?
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    Re: Amnesty International condemns U.S. failure to act on torture report

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    Exactly my point. Even his own citizens without due process. And we are the authority to say what is just or not?
    Here's the way I feel. Amnesty International is not an organization I would look to when we are involved in war. While I wish war was never necessary, if it is to be fought, I am not in favor of rules of engagement which put our troops in danger. I think that if war happens, we should use the full might of our military to do whatever is necessary to make it short. Then, when possible, we should just leave, with the understanding that if the wrong things happen in our absence, we'll be back. In this way, it will be understood that we mean what we say, will back it up and we could avoid conflict because our words are backed by action.

    Therefore, I don't care what Amnesty thinks.
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    Re: Amnesty International condemns U.S. failure to act on torture report

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Here's the way I feel. Amnesty International is not an organization I would look to when we are involved in war. While I wish war was never necessary, if it is to be fought, I am not in favor of rules of engagement which put our troops in danger. I think that if war happens, we should use the full might of our military to do whatever is necessary to make it short. Then, when possible, we should just leave, with the understanding that if the wrong things happen in our absence, we'll be back. In this way, it will be understood that we mean what we say, will back it up and we could avoid conflict because our words are backed by action.

    Therefore, I don't care what Amnesty thinks.
    What happens when we are essentially an occupying force? Insurgent and or guerilla attacks? Iraq can be an example, Vietnam, etc? What happens when we are essentially not wanted? What about reasoning for war? How far does this "full might of our military" expand?
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    Re: Amnesty International condemns U.S. failure to act on torture report

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What happens when we are essentially an occupying force? Insurgent and or guerilla attacks? Iraq can be an example, Vietnam, etc? What happens when we are essentially not wanted? What about reasoning for war? How far does this "full might of our military" expand?
    Under my beliefs of the use of military force, we would not occupy anything. I said that I believe we should fight to win by any means and then leave. In Afghanistan, my war would have been over in a month, then we'd leave and let the Afgans figure it out.

    When I say full might, I would commit one hundred percent of our conventional military assets. Nuclear assets are only a deterrent, used as leverage against other nuclear powers.

    Our military is the strongest in the world and the only countries who could give us a match are China and Russia. In the Middle East we've fought wars of attrition which are wars in which we loose in public opinion. I would avoid wars of attrition at all cost.
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    Re: Amnesty International condemns U.S. failure to act on torture report

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Under my beliefs of the use of military force, we would not occupy anything. I said that I believe we should fight to win by any means and then leave. In Afghanistan, my war would have been over in a month, then we'd leave and let the Afgans figure it out.

    When I say full might, I would commit one hundred percent of our conventional military assets. Nuclear assets are only a deterrent, used as leverage against other nuclear powers.

    Our military is the strongest in the world and the only countries who could give us a match are China and Russia. In the Middle East we've fought wars of attrition which are wars in which we loose in public opinion. I would avoid wars of attrition at all cost.
    How? How do you realistically fight a force that hides in rural ares (oftten rugged covered areas), adapts to the population, wins a lot of the populations support? What does this actually mean? Is a simple bombing run on Talibani camps it? Or more? What?
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    Re: Amnesty International condemns U.S. failure to act on torture report

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    As always, direct human rights violations that the US condemns in other countries, but once we find ourselves partaking in such actions, is swept under the rug. US politicians release the study, but once it comes to actually taking action on their findings, its quietly silent. Obama wont convict or even further investigate the study, it just quietly put under the rug where Americans will forget about it. How can you "promote human rights overseas" when your own forces cant even uphold them? How can you "promote human rights overseas" when your own country wont even protect the others the US imprisons? [/FONT]

    Promoting peace isn't always the same as promoting human rights.

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    Re: Amnesty International condemns U.S. failure to act on torture report

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    Promoting peace isn't always the same as promoting human rights.
    Who is promoting peace? Who is promoting human rights?
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    Re: Amnesty International condemns U.S. failure to act on torture report

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    As always, direct human rights violations that the US condemns in other countries, but once we find ourselves partaking in such actions, is swept under the rug. US politicians release the study, but once it comes to actually taking action on their findings, its quietly silent. Obama wont convict or even further investigate the study, it just quietly put under the rug where Americans will forget about it. How can you "promote human rights overseas" when your own forces cant even uphold them? How can you "promote human rights overseas" when your own country wont even protect the others the US imprisons? [/FONT]
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