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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nah, just your claims is fine...But I suspect that you are stalling because you can't...So now is when you'll make it about me, about them, about anything other than backing up with facts what you claimed...That's all too typical.
    What the hell is wrong with you dude? Having to prove to you that there is widespread abuse in American police forces across the country is like having to prove to you that the earth isn't flat. Now, since your partisan mind can't handle anything from a liberal source, I'll give you what you like.

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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron River View Post
    The liberal horde has made this political with 0bama calling the police stupid, calling Little Trayvon his son look alike, sending Holder to investigate the killing of the career thug Brown and still he is saying that our police are all a bunch of racist pigs - just like Bill Ayres taught him.

    We may have seen one case of real abuse of power with the shooting of the dead beat dad in SC but the killing of Brown was justified and a service to the comunity.
    Police abuse, corruption and heavy handedness has nothing to do with politics, leave it out of this.
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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What the hell is wrong with you dude? Having to prove to you that there is widespread abuse in American police forces across the country is like having to prove to you that the earth isn't flat. Now, since your partisan mind can't handle anything from a liberal source, I'll give you what you like.

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    There is actually starting to be some contention on some points. Some are starting to wonder if police brutality ISN'T actually on the rise. The concern is if it is in fact simply OBSERVED more often. After all...YouTube and cell phones haven't been around for a while.
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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Police abuse, corruption and heavy handedness has nothing to do with politics, leave it out of this.
    Police corruption can be VERY political. NYC comes to mind.
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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    No. Not without evidence. Bft can occur for many reasons. The order of importance does not start with when. It is how and why. Then when.
    All I did was point out the facts as we know them, he was able to walk and run. Cops caught him, and he couldn't, and he died.
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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not true.
    Fantastic and in depth response. Really something to think about here.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not buying it...If you believed in law and order then you would also believe in the precept of innocent until PROVEN guilty...Seems you have discarded that.
    I'm not the judge in this case. I haven't discarded anything (another strawman) I'm allowed to speculate. Furthermore there are lots of cases where cops get off, where, if they had been held to the same standard as the general public they would have been prosecuted. Acquitting a person for murder may make him innocent in the eyes of the law, but it does not mean they are actually innocent.

    Save the personal ad hom's buddy...They're quite boring.[/QUOTE]

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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    yeah, I lived in Bel Air, and worked driving from Frederick to Rockville every day...Lived there for twenty years....You want real Baltimore, head on down the Alameda, or on over to Charles hights....I am sure you will get a great education on what its like to deal with unpredictable people.
    I grew up in Medford Mass right across the river from South Boston (southie), Dorchester and Fall river, So I've seen it.
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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    That does not justify the police causing the suspect's "spine was 80 percent severed at his neck." This is no longer about protecting others or following the law, this is about a growing problem of Police brutality up to and including murder. It is happening more frequently and it happens to correlate to an increasing militarization of our police force, where the active intention is to treat everyone as if they are an enemy of some degree.

    I simply do not buy this "obey the officer and you will be fine" sentiment any longer as we have too many examples of police doing whatever they want expecting to be able to operate above the law.

    Our real concern is this only ends one way, a real social backlash that we cannot whimsically dismiss. Too many people are dying at the hands of police for various reasons and in various conditions and there is not enough justification for all of it. It has to stop.
    You don't know that the officers caused that. There's no info available regarding the cause of the injury yet

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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Another runner with a record.

    STOP running and resisting!
    Stupid to run? Yes, you are right. But that does not excuse all these deaths nor does it mean police officers have to stop doing their job properly.

    Also, this injury seems to have occurred after arrest, but the investigation is still in it's early days, so the police officers should have the luxury of innocent until proven otherwise. For all we know he fell down and hurt his neck in that manner, which would make it nothing more than an accident. The only thing you could hold the police accountable for might be not calling an ambulance/paramedics in time to prevent the death.
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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by csbrown28 View Post
    He ran before being detained. Pretty sure just running isn't a crime.
    But it is a dumb thing to do knowing how the police sometimes reacts.
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