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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Just stop with the asininity. His actions put him there.


    And there may have been a reason for that, such as he wasn't able to sit.
    That does not automatically speak of negligence.


    Only in your imagination.
    An investigation MUST be done with an unbiased, non-partisan group .. if this exists ..
    Also, the "personal safety" is the responsibility of the individual, NOT the police (primarily) .
    And this "buckle up" business .. ludicrous and silly... Something is seriously wrong when its so damned important to "buckle up" ! The "wrong" is not being addressed , only covered up, if it exists at all .. JMO.

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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well, j-Mac says that the USDOJ has already begun an investigation which is better than leaving it just to the department in question to investigate themselves. I think some European countries have a very good way of dealing with it that I wouldn't mind seeing tried here. The IPCC, Independent Police Complaints Commission. They investigate and review all forms of misconduct by police officers, including violence, human rights abuses, etc. Their tasks are to ensure that complaints about police abuse are investigated in an adequate manner, and in accordance with the law. The mission of such bodies is primarily to ensure public confidence in police.
    "the child must always learn from the adult"
    We are, obviously the child; nothing wrong with that ...
    To have the police , the system, investigate its self .. highly foolish ! Bias IS a natural occurring thing .

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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    Not being buckled into a vehicle you never wanted to be in in the first place, while restrained and unable to buckle yourself in or break your fall...

    That is called negligence. Passing several opportunities to call paramedics when care was obviously needed trips the scale toward criminal negligence.

    It's pretty open and shut. Gray died in police custody by police actions.
    I question the degree of police responsibility .. What if a man has a heart attack while being detained ? Of course, this does look to be highly suspicious ..

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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    His limp body is definitely an indication that he was injured during.
    ...which means he most definitely should have been secured in some way inside of the van, doesn't it?

    Unless, that is, you believe it's totally reasonable to put a baby in the trunk during rush hour traffic.
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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    I question the degree of police responsibility .. What if a man has a heart attack while being detained ? Of course, this does look to be highly suspicious ..
    If a man has a heart attack while being detained, the officers have a responsibility to provide first aid until the paramedics arrive.
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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    ...which means he most definitely should have been secured in some way inside of the van, doesn't it?

    Unless, that is, you believe it's totally reasonable to put a baby in the trunk during rush hour traffic.
    Did you not pay attention to what was previously stated?


    "And there may have been a reason for that, such as he wasn't able to sit."
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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    the officers have a responsibility
    What law says that?
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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Did you not pay attention to what was previously stated?


    "And there may have been a reason for that, such as he wasn't able to sit."
    If he had no way to sit.... Doesn't that imply he needed medical attention?
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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    What law says that?
    The Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments.
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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    If he had no way to sit.... Doesn't that imply he needed medical attention?
    Not any attention that couldn't later be provided.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    The Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments.
    No, that does not say the Officer's have any such responsibility.
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