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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    I'm also a larger person (6'4", 215), and yeah, stuff happens in sports, but sports are recreational and consenting. Interaction with law enforcement isn't something you sign up for at the local YMCA. It's a likely unexpected encounter that you're unprepared for and potentially only get to do once, without do overs or tap outs.
    EXACTLY! So if you RUN...your chance of injury goes up. Do you expect the police NOT to put someone down who runs? It isn't tag. My entire point here is that injury during the scuffle cannot be ruled out AND that would be justified.

    There is not enough evidence released to the public for us to know who is at fault.
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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Do you have something against courts and juries?
    Not at all, but it just seems that people have bi passed that in favor of blaming the police without having all the facts...I mean, really? There are people in here advocating just letting the perp go if they run....Is that really conducive to getting in front of a court, or jury?
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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Of course people are terrified by the police and run out of fear. They know they cannot trust the police not to beat or kill them. Look at the guy that stole the horse. When the cops caught him, 10 of them beat the crap out of him.
    Your best bet is just give up when police officers want to arrest you, if you tire them out with a long chase and multiple officers are needed you risk a beat down, there shouldn't be a beat down but you risk it anyway if you do things that make that more likely to happen (resisting, leading them on a foot chase, trying to hit officers, etc.).

    Better to not trust and be arrested than resist arrest and get punished twice (once by the cops who beat you and once by the judge who orders you to pay for the removal of your own blood from their uniforms and then gives you extra months/years for resisting arrest).
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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No but apparently it means you'll be executed without trial and conservatives will cheer from the sidelines.
    No one is cheering for this man's death. If he falls into the category I described, that's on him.
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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Another runner with a record.

    STOP running and resisting!
    Really? Your advice is to simply let police search you for being in your own neighborhood (a known drug sales area)? The arrest, as far as I can tell, was for possession of a pocket knife - why is that not a 2A and 4A violation? If during the "arrest process" you can be seriously injured or killed then it would seem foolish not to avoid (resist?) that arrest - not much has been reported about the fate of the other man (reported to be with/near him at the time) also seen running away from police.
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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Apparently, you don't pay any attention to them.
    I see them splatter all over the screen as you do. I also see the FBI stats that show how rare it actually is.
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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Really? Your advice is to simply let police search you for being in your own neighborhood (a known drug sales area)?
    You may not like the job they have to do, and heck, they may not like it either, but they still have to do it...So, yeah, let them do their job, and move on...

    The arrest, as far as I can tell, was for possession of a pocket knife - why is that not a 2A and 4A violation?
    Not everything is a federal case, (although this one is now) but if the family wanted to pursue the road to the Supreme Court they are free to find an attorney that is willing to take the case and move that direction....Hope they have a large checkbook.

    If during the "arrest process" you can be seriously injured or killed then it would seem foolish not to avoid (resist?) that arrest
    I would guess that most injuries to cops, as well as suspects happen during resisting arrest...Those who comply and follow orders generally are unharmed.

    not much has been reported about the fate of the other man (reported to be with/near him at the time) also seen running away from police.
    Probably got away...It's like the old story: "Walking through the woods with a friend that was overweight, and smoked, the out of shape friend says 'I'm surprised we are walking through here, isn't this the trail where a lot of bear sightings have been reported'? The other man replies, 'it sure is'....Then the first man says 'well, what do we do if a bear attacks'? the other man says 'run'....the first says 'we had better be fast'....the first man says 'don't have to be, I just have to be faster than you'....
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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    No one is cheering for this man's death. If he falls into the category I described, that's on him.
    You mean being a dumbass? Sure, if you're a dumbass in America, and you're killed by police, that's your own fault.... Seriously?

    The other thing that's a bit surprising is you said you agreed that 12 million arrests was a problem, many of them BS arrests. But surely you have to see that the BS arrests flow right into some kid running from cops. Lots of articles and the DOJ report detail the process. Stop some guy with a broken tail light, find a joint in the ash tray, guy gets a $500 ticket. Doesn't show up for court because he doesn't have the money to pay. Now he's got a warrant for his arrest for that. It also means his DL is suspended. So if he drives to work, and gets stopped, pile on another ticket, and maybe a few days in jail, gets fired from his job and he still can't drive legally but that's the only way he can get to a job. And his actual crimes were a busted tail light and a joint. But because he's poor he's now in a spiral that takes money he doesn't have to get out of.

    And then people wonder why a guy might run for police....

    It's one thing if the person is a suspected serial rapist, but since we haven't heard that, it's more likely what he was running from was one of those BS arrests you're opposed to, and now he's dead. I don't see how that makes sense to anyone.

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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Really? Your advice is to simply let police search you for being in your own neighborhood (a known drug sales area)? The arrest, as far as I can tell, was for possession of a pocket knife - why is that not a 2A and 4A violation? If during the "arrest process" you can be seriously injured or killed then it would seem foolish not to avoid (resist?) that arrest - not much has been reported about the fate of the other man (reported to be with/near him at the time) also seen running away from police.
    Supposedly the perps ran after the cops made eye contact. There was no initial search or questions.

    As far as the switchblade, if the guy had a felony record, possessing an illegal weapon carries a greater penalty.

    Don't get me wrong here. I have no idea what goes through the head of someone who runs from the cops...it's not in my nature. What I do see is where it puts your life in unnecessary danger by doing so.
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    Re: Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    You mean being a dumbass? Sure, if you're a dumbass in America, and you're killed by police, that's your own fault.... Seriously?

    The other thing that's a bit surprising is you said you agreed that 12 million arrests was a problem, many of them BS arrests. But surely you have to see that the BS arrests flow right into some kid running from cops. Lots of articles and the DOJ report detail the process. Stop some guy with a broken tail light, find a joint in the ash tray, guy gets a $500 ticket. Doesn't show up for court because he doesn't have the money to pay. Now he's got a warrant for his arrest for that. It also means his DL is suspended. So if he drives to work, and gets stopped, pile on another ticket, and maybe a few days in jail, gets fired from his job and he still can't drive legally but that's the only way he can get to a job. And his actual crimes were a busted tail light and a joint. But because he's poor he's now in a spiral that takes money he doesn't have to get out of.

    And then people wonder why a guy might run for police....

    It's one thing if the person is a suspected serial rapist, but since we haven't heard that, it's more likely what he was running from was one of those BS arrests you're opposed to, and now he's dead. I don't see how that makes sense to anyone.
    Sounds like someone making bad decisions all around....
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