Nonsense strawman argument.
not at all. Sarcasm in service of a point. Vests and the like are worn because they
save lives. Pointing to reduced deaths among cops and then stating we should get rid of tactical gear like vests is rather self-contradicting.
lol, it's community policing, COIN makes it sound so tacti-cool.
:shrug: I call it COIN because that's how I'm familiar with it. Continual presence patrolling to provide security to the populace from malign actors. Key Leader Engagements. Creation of intelligence networks among the populace to capture and funnel up reporting on malign actors, and use of continual presence to protect those who work with you from retribution.
You said if civilians weren't allowed to carry guns, cops shouldn't be. Extending the idiotic reasoning of the gun-free zone to the last line of defense.
So in a situation where swat is needed, you want to send car 3?
Why would it matter? If it's a gun free-zone, and we've stripped their tactical gear, SWAT is just a bunch of slightly more in-shape cops with maybe deeper sounding "pew pew" noises.
In such a situation if the people were armed. the robbery most likely never would have happened.
Maybe - but the
important thing to remember is that we have
way to many military-style guns in the hands of civilians these days, and a small percentage of those civilians hurt others. We need reform. Maybe if we take away people's legal tactical gear and weapons, everyone will be nicer.
yet only 27 out of 900,000 died in 2013, including from accidents. funny dat reality.
1. You are applying a national standard when local conditions rule
2. A significant portion of that reduction is due to the gear that
you want to strip from them.
3. This doesn't - actually - answer the point that we have police responding to hostile populaces who have been taught that cops in general are the enemy, and sing songs celebrating and glorifying their killing. Funny dat logic.
Again, if they are non-violent and its a drug offense, (not a grand theft or whatever), release them.
Depends. Multiple offenders, people who refuse to pay fines (or whatever is awarded in lieu of time), there are some I can see justifying Time. But generally, the idiot kid with the joint? Fine him.
end the war on drugs, use 1/10 the money spent on treatment programs, give the rest back to the peoples.
Most governments run deficits and savings should be directed there first. And portions of counter-drug efforts should absolutely remain. Marijuana should be treated like alcohol.
if we look at the numbers, police end up killing about 1000 people a year, many I am sure deserved it, but some did not.
Why then do other countries not have to kill people to enforce the laws? are we a more violent society? more criminal minded?
Actually, compared to other Western nations, yeah, we are.
None of which, I can't help but notice, actually answer the point - that the charge that police are increasingly "out of control" is false, but fed by a story-hungry media.
80,000 swat raids last year. Many for routine police work.
And we've agreed that many of such are dumb and dangerous.
1000 people killed by police per year on average.
:shrug: okay. and?
27 cops died from all causes in 2013
How many were shot at or otherwise attacked?
meanwhile in other developed countries the number of people killed by police hovers around zero
Yup. Their civilian violence rates are lower, too.
Those defending that thug brown comes to mind.
Well, "those defending that thug brown" and thinking that cops deserve to pay for "murders" like that are a hefty portion of the populace, dude.
There is a memo about hiring veterans that's not very flattering, it's all about that ptsd etc.
Well then that memo is ****ing stupid.
