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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    The lady close to the cops was running her mouth.


    The #hero's are supposed to be the professionals.


    You made the comparison to wild animals, not me.
    Ok, so you can't address what I just said in the post you quoted eh? Figures....I'm going to mow the lawn....This is destroying my brain cells....
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hey, Newsflash there Rev....There are some pretty bad people out there....Maybe we can just start asking criminals to "pretty please" just give up....right?
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, that's you trying like hell to justify your own dumb blurts in this thread...We don't know what was said before, or after that video clip, nor do we know why she was intent on taking video, or pics of the actions....How do you know she isn't part of the biker gang they were trying to interdict?

    I am not saying that cops are "wild animals" that is your characterization. I am simply saying that if you act in a predictable way while they are trying to do their job, then their actions are predictable as well...To expect that you can just walk up for instance, while a cop is trying to effect an arrest, and get in the middle of what he is doing because you think he is being too rough, and not get arrested harshly yourself is just plain stupid.

    Just as this lady was too close, notice that the other person across the street had no problems filming them....Now why do you think that is?
    So than she should have been arrested if she was interfering with an arrest and had her day in court. What legal authority does the police officer have to find her guilty and the punishment is he gets to break her camera. Seems to me that if she was breaking the law the footage would be used as evidence against her. Probably shouldn't have smashed it in that case.

    But to be honest I have never seen the law that allows the cop to determine guilt right there in the spot.

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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Maybe portions of the populace should then stop treating police like the enemy?

    I see the similarity that you do. But that makes me more likely to grant the cop greater assumption, not less.


    They don't that's a creation of the 1033 program, the war on terror, and the desire to turn the police into a domestic military force. What you are seeing, is the backlash to militarizing the police.

    Police, in times of historic peace, low crime, are treating this country like a warzone and gearing up as if it's an occupation. It's not the other way around.,

    I mean, a tactical beard?



    LAPD facial hair policy:

    "Facial hair is permitted for on-duty officers in uniform with the permission of the Chief of Police. All facial hair shall be clean, neatly trimmed, and will present a professional appearance. Permission to wear beards, moustaches, and goatees may be withdrawn by the Chief at any time."

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    So, for what reason does this high speed, low drag "operator" need to have an unkempt bear while on duty?


    We both know the reason, cause all the cool socom d00ds and contractors do it in iraq and afghanistan (with good reason, reason that is lacking in LA)
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, so you can't address what I just said in the post you quoted eh? Figures....I'm going to mow the lawn....This is destroying my brain cells....
    I addressed what you said, directly.


    Indeed, any more, and you wouldn't be able to figure out that lawn mower!
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hey, Newsflash there Rev....There are some pretty bad people out there....Maybe we can just start asking criminals to "pretty please" just give up....right?


    27 police died in the line of duty last year, statistically very very few.

    Crime is at an all time low.


    There are some pretty bad people out there, sure. But not nearly as many as you are led to believe.

    And this lady wasn't one of them. being obnoxious, isn't against the law.
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    at this stage in the game, half the country was convinced whatshisname in ferguson had his hands up and was trying to surrender. If we are going to lash out at a cop, we should make sure that we are right to do so.
    I've always, always said that it's a shame that so much effort was, as a result of the incident, as I was never fully convinced that that incident wasn't justified. Now I'm not certain that it was justified, but I've seen hundreds and hundreds of people who where were killed or injured by police that were much more deserving of the public outrage than the kid in Ferguson.
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    "Cop apologists"?

    Lol what an insane term.

    765,000 Sworn Officers in the US and out of every few THOUSAND of them, there is ONE bad cop. Police are people, not machines. Some people can pass all kinds of training and poly's and still be as*@(@s. Kind of like HUMINT operators who decide to sell state secrets.

    Get off your high horse. Most cops are good. The media doesn't report the 99.9% of good cops.

    I've never said most cops aren't good cops...


    There are good cops, however, and there are bad cops, "good cops" who turn a blind eye to bad cops, are not good cops.
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Let me just say, from the short snippet of what happened that we saw, I do NOT condone the police officers actions, however, don't we have to ask ourselves why it is that outlets like NBC are pushing this meme...? I mean, you and others that can be so easily manipulated by a 10 second snip of footage, and a narrative need to back up a moment, and check why you are falling for this silliness.


    Meme?

    A woman is assaulted on video, has her property destroyed and you call it a ****ing meme?

    You don't support the cop, how nice. You don't condemn it either, and suggest this is all being orchestrated by MSNBC as if they manufactured this is tacit approval.

    Wake the **** up. Some of your cops think they're in Iraq and do whatever they like. They don't want video of what they do because what they do is wrong, illegal and often psychotic.

    By suggesting such, you condone it.
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    To those that are defending the cops actions or saying it's hard to tell from the short video, I have to ask what could have the lady done that would have made it legal for a the officer to destroy her personal property. Even if she broke some law does she not have to go before a judge before she can be found guilty. I wasn't aware that the cop on he ground was allowed to make that judgment.
    That's funny because in the case where the guy got shot in the back in SC. I asked the EXACT same question over and over to those who defended the cop in that situation. Could anyone speculate on a set of circumstances that would have justified the officers actions? I didn't get much in the way of a response.

    Now in this case, if she had done something sooooo wrong that she deserved to have her property destroyed, shouldn't she have been arrested? Seems the lack of arrest (or at least that I'm aware of) lends of credence to the fact that she wasn't doing anything against the law.

    I'm gonna watch this one develop and as in all cases I speculate on, if it's shown I am wrong, I will make a post admitting I was wrong. Still haven't had to eat my words.
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