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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    I'm not convinced we can dismiss this one under the guise of network news motivations.
    Ah. So this is a theory wherein news organizations do not seek to make money?

    I do not think as a society we can tolerate officers who look at their activity as being above the law.
    I would concur. Those who are granted public powers and then abuse special trust and confidence placed in them should receive additional penalties - be they abusive cops, ideologically-driven IRS agents, or corrupt election workers.

    But because of that, we also need to be sure.
    “In America we have a two-party system,” a Republican congressional staffer told a visiting group of Russian legislators. “There is the stupid party. And there is the evil party. I am proud to be a member of the stupid party. Periodically, the two parties get together and do something that is both stupid and evil. This is called: bipartisanship."

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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why not just do away with police forces, and then we can truly be free, right?

    Nah, we want them to just go back to policing, not pretending to be PMC's in Iraq and us the enemy.
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by csbrown28 View Post
    Seems if she had done something he would of grabbed her and arrested her, or at the very least spoken to her about her actions, not the camera. Now you are right the video is clipped and we can't be 100% certain, but this one looks like it's going to be pretty hard to defend.
    at this stage in the game, half the country was convinced whatshisname in ferguson had his hands up and was trying to surrender. If we are going to lash out at a cop, we should make sure that we are right to do so.
    “In America we have a two-party system,” a Republican congressional staffer told a visiting group of Russian legislators. “There is the stupid party. And there is the evil party. I am proud to be a member of the stupid party. Periodically, the two parties get together and do something that is both stupid and evil. This is called: bipartisanship."

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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So you are saying cops are wild animals, unpredictable and deadly to those who dare get to close.


    Funny, I thought they were rational human beings with a job to "protect and serve" the public.


    If they are mindless animals why are we giving them guns and athority?
    No, that's you trying like hell to justify your own dumb blurts in this thread...We don't know what was said before, or after that video clip, nor do we know why she was intent on taking video, or pics of the actions....How do you know she isn't part of the biker gang they were trying to interdict?

    I am not saying that cops are "wild animals" that is your characterization. I am simply saying that if you act in a predictable way while they are trying to do their job, then their actions are predictable as well...To expect that you can just walk up for instance, while a cop is trying to effect an arrest, and get in the middle of what he is doing because you think he is being too rough, and not get arrested harshly yourself is just plain stupid.

    Just as this lady was too close, notice that the other person across the street had no problems filming them....Now why do you think that is?
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Nah, we want them to just go back to policing, not pretending to be PMC's in Iraq and us the enemy.
    1. A lot of what we were doing in Iraq was policing.
    2. Maybe portions of the populace should then stop treating police like the enemy?


    I see the similarity that you do. But that makes me more likely to grant the cop greater assumption, not less.

    Between an irresponsible populace convinced that "The Cops Are Just After Them" because "They Keep Getting Harassed Just For Breaking The Law", or that the law is somehow illegitimate and that they can/should take that out on cops..... and a populace who agrees to do a crappy job dealing with the worst people doing their worst things on a regular basis, risking their life to protect others...... well, I know which side I am going to instinctively fall on. One of these sides has made a serving gesture towards the other, and been rewarded with hate and bile. And, in many cases, probably responded with understandable contempt.
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    “In America we have a two-party system,” a Republican congressional staffer told a visiting group of Russian legislators. “There is the stupid party. And there is the evil party. I am proud to be a member of the stupid party. Periodically, the two parties get together and do something that is both stupid and evil. This is called: bipartisanship."

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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    To those that are defending the cops actions or saying it's hard to tell from the short video, I have to ask what could have the lady done that would have made it legal for a the officer to destroy her personal property. Even if she broke some law does she not have to go before a judge before she can be found guilty. I wasn't aware that the cop on he ground was allowed to make that judgment.

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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, that's you trying like hell to justify your own dumb blurts in this thread...We don't know what was said before, or after that video clip, nor do we know why she was intent on taking video, or pics of the actions....How do you know she isn't part of the biker gang they were trying to interdict?

    I am not saying that cops are "wild animals" that is your characterization. I am simply saying that if you act in a predictable way while they are trying to do their job, then their actions are predictable as well...To expect that you can just walk up for instance, while a cop is trying to effect an arrest, and get in the middle of what he is doing because you think he is being too rough, and not get arrested harshly yourself is just plain stupid.

    Just as this lady was too close, notice that the other person across the street had no problems filming them....Now why do you think that is?



    The lady close to the cops was running her mouth.


    The #hero's are supposed to be the professionals.


    You made the comparison to wild animals, not me.
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Nah, we want them to just go back to policing, not pretending to be PMC's in Iraq and us the enemy.
    Hey, Newsflash there Rev....There are some pretty bad people out there....Maybe we can just start asking criminals to "pretty please" just give up....right?
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yup. Having performed that task a couple of times, I can say that when you risk yourself to protect a populace that you increasingly feel chooses to view the law (and you, as its avatar) as the enemy, rather than the criminals, it's pretty crappy. A lot of the anti-coppers depersonalize the middle class dude with a tough job into some kind of hydra-monster "The State", and confuse childish rantings against the police officer with striking some kind of brave individualistic pose against the former.
    Though I was never actually a cop, I went to school to be a cop I've been on at least 100 ride-a-longs over a two year period in a city of about 60K. I've trained police in the use of "continuance of force techniques" and PR-24 use. I have several friends and family members who are cops (including Cheif of Police)...So I have a little background myself.....

    When I talk to the cops I know, they agree there is a problem. Many are reluctant to speak out against the behaviors of fellow officers they see as they fear being ostracized in a police culture that has increasingly adopted a stance that intimidation and fear is better than cooperation. That preemption and self protection are what's being taught, not negotiation and self-discipline.

    The cops I know want personal cameras, to protect themselves and because they know the "bad" cops will get weeded out.
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Where are the "ride along" cop apologists?


    Dudes dressed like he's blackwater, ****in coward.
    "Cop apologists"?

    Lol what an insane term.

    765,000 Sworn Officers in the US and out of every few THOUSAND of them, there is ONE bad cop. Police are people, not machines. Some people can pass all kinds of training and poly's and still be as*@(@s. Kind of like HUMINT operators who decide to sell state secrets.

    Get off your high horse. Most cops are good. The media doesn't report the 99.9% of good cops.

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