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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I don't think it has anything to do with the 10 second snip. It has everything to do with the many hundreds of citizens shot by the Police every year. Police killings are common as horse turds and inexcusable. It's supposed to be "Protect and Serve," not center mass.
    Well, yeah...Maybe the dumb asses should stop running, and or assaulting the police...Ya think?
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Let's remember too, that he is holding an AR15. Now if an officer attacks you unprovoked, without warning, do you have the right to defend yourself? Would you defend yourself knowing that, unless a video is being shot somewhere else, you are probably going to be beaten and abused and charged with a crime because what you call sell defense they will call assault or resisting ect...

    I posted another thread that proposes a new law for violations of the public trust....

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...post1064549446 (Gov officials that violate citizens rights be guilty of an additional crime?)
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    I'm not convinced we can dismiss this one under the guise of network news motivations.

    I get that in the course of police action one cannot interfere, but at a reasonable distance while *out in public* the Police have no expectation of privacy where they can demand to not be filmed. At the same time what the officer did do was destruction of private property and arguably assault (the effort to grab the phone, again... arguably.)

    I do not think as a society we can tolerate officers who look at their activity as being above the law.
    But, I am not saying that...Who decides what a "reasonable distance" is? The police trying to bust in on a biker gang? or the citizen trying to catch them in something to discredit their actions?
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    My only comment on this is to ask who in their right mind would want to be a police officer in this day and in this political/social climate? Constantly watched/taped, constantly second guessed, constantly accused of being criminal or thugs, and constantly having an entitled public up in their faces everywhere they go and work.

    Being a police officer today has to be one of if not the most stressful of jobs going. You couldn't pay me enough to be one and I'm grateful for those who do the job and do it well.
    Yup. Having performed that task a couple of times, I can say that when you risk yourself to protect a populace that you increasingly feel chooses to view the law (and you, as its avatar) as the enemy, rather than the criminals, it's pretty crappy. A lot of the anti-coppers depersonalize the middle class dude with a tough job into some kind of hydra-monster "The State", and confuse childish rantings against the police officer with striking some kind of brave individualistic pose against the former.
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    *Sigh* yeah ok....Being on a gang interdiction police force in LA for Christ sake, is not dangerous enough...Right on Dirty Harry.


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    there are nearly 1 million LEOS.

    27 were killed in the line of duty last year:

    "Six were killed while making arrests. Five were ambushed. Four were involved in tactical situations. All but one were killed with a firearm. One was struck and killed by a vehicle."



    No, gang interdiction, is not as dangerous as it sounds..


    She wasn't a gang banger.




    and the other cop, with the tactical beard? come on now., /facepalm
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    But, I am not saying that...Who decides what a "reasonable distance" is? The police trying to bust in on a biker gang? or the citizen trying to catch them in something to discredit their actions?
    Usnure but I suspect the standard will come down to what is interfering, and from all the clips I have seen not a one of them points to this person trying to stop or slow down the arrest. The police did not want to be filmed, so they did something about it and from my chair they broke the law to get their way.
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You know, of you get too close to the Tiger cage at the zoo, it may attack you as well....



    So you are saying cops are wild animals, unpredictable and deadly to those who dare get to close.


    Funny, I thought they were rational human beings with a job to "protect and serve" the public.


    If they are mindless animals why are we giving them guns and athority?


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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    initially his actions look fairly indefensible, however, it's pretty obviously clipped. We will see what fully comes out.

    In the meantime, those who rush to jump on the cop are operating in as much dark as those who rush to defend him.
    Seems if she had done something he would of grabbed her and arrested her, or at the very least spoken to her about her actions, not the camera. Now you are right the video is clipped and we can't be 100% certain, but this one looks like it's going to be pretty hard to defend.
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by csbrown28 View Post
    Let's remember too, that he is holding an AR15. Now if an officer attacks you unprovoked, without warning, do you have the right to defend yourself? Would you defend yourself knowing that unless a video is being shot somewhere else, you are going to be beaten and abused and charged with a crime because what you call sell defense they will call assault or resisting ect...

    I posted another thread that proposes a new law for violations of the public trust....

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...post1064549446 (Gov officials that violate citizens rights be guilty of an additional crime?)
    Why not just do away with police forces, and then we can truly be free, right?
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why not just do away with police forces, and then we can truly be free, right?
    The logical fallacy you've committed is called "Appeal the the Extreme"

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