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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    The incident is being investigated. That's good. Probably he will be found to be in the wrong - and if so, punished, which is also good. There should be a higher standard for those entrusted with power and public trust.
    agreed.


    I wouldn't be able to tell you offhand. However, doing so not only interferes with police investigations (a crime) but also threatens their lives and the lives of their family.
    I didn't say it wasn't an asshole thing to do, but I don't think it's illegal in general to do so.


    Hm. Maybe a couple of dozen? More than 12, less than 25, probably.

    Wait, How many as a cop?
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    yep.



    maybe, but they didn't...Would an arrest of the woman, mitigated the Marshall smashing her phone? I say no. Plus, I think they had bigger fish to fry at the moment.
    It should of he's a professional. If she wasn't arrested, this was assault.


    Problem is the "reform" you're advocating would make that us v. them situation worse...Police are already outnumbered in society today, can you imagine how they would feel if their ability to use force was neutered?


    Police work is safe, it's mortality rate per 100,000 is only SLIGHTLY higher than civillian. The reform I call for is the removal of almost all tactical, military style gear. a return to on the street policing (get out of the car and become part of the neighborhood). I would even go so far as to say that if civillians aren't allowed to carry in an area, neither should cops.


    so if you think taking away all the military toys from patrol officers, is going to make a larger "us vs them" mentality, I think we have the wrong people as police then.


    Along with this, I would call for the release of all non-violent drug offenders, ending the war on drugs, and increase de-escalation training over tactical training.
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Maybe I am, maybe not...I'm a busy guy, I work pretty hard, so I'm not always available to sit around watching news 24/7.

    And NO, I don't think they are the only cases, but you're ignoring my questions....How many cases vs. the number of police on the job? Can you answer that?
    Why does it matter what percentage of cops are bad actors, let's just get rid of them.
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    agreed.
    'fair nuff.

    I didn't say it wasn't an asshole thing to do, but I don't think it's illegal in general to do so.
    I don't know the law - but I would bet that there is something that deals with it.

    Wait, How many as a cop?
    I've never been a cop. Moving the goalposts?
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    well, J-man, I think you pretty much called that one.



    You of course disagree, these incidents of cops killing people, should be rare. not almost daily. Boston, running around illegally searching peoples homes, confiscating firearms in new orleans, political swat raids in wisconsin, swat raids for routine police work, a %10000 increasein swat raids. (80,000 per year), instigating violence over loose cigarettes, shooting dogs as an epidemic...

    In this time of historic low crime, why are police using deadly force so much more?

    In this time of historic low crime, why are police training with and in military style tactics and equipment?

    In this time of historic low crime, why are cops telling bikers in NC that they "go into battle"?

    In this time of historic low crime, are police deaths going down while police killing people has gone up?


    Tell, me why does the USA law enforcment kill more people than most other countries? are we that much more violent and criminal minded?



    Do you really believe no reform is needed? at all?


    You don't see a need for any reform?
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    'fair nuff.



    I don't know the law - but I would bet that there is something that deals with it.



    I've never been a cop. Moving the goalposts?


    I thought you were, my bad. I was about to call bull**** if you were and said you saw them in the streets.
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Police work is safe, it's mortality rate per 100,000 is only SLIGHTLY higher than civillian. The reform I call for is the removal of almost all tactical, military style gear
    Ah. So cops aren't dying due to their equipment, and we need to fix that ASAP.

    . a return to on the street policing (get out of the car and become part of the neighborhood).
    No - this is part of COIN. It's one of those nasty military strategy thingies that are so awful.

    I would even go so far as to say that if civillians aren't allowed to carry in an area, neither should cops.
    So this is an extenuation of the theory that, if it is illegal to have guns, criminals won't? Yeah, that'll work out about as well as it did when we disarmed civilians, except worse.

    "Car 3 this is dispatch, we have an armed/dangerous robbery going down on the corner of 23rd and 6th"

    "Roger, dispatch, we will be deploying our finger pistols and pew-pew noises forthwith".


    if you think taking away all the military toys from patrol officers, is going to make a larger "us vs them" mentality, I think we have the wrong people as police then.
    No, we have police responding to hostile populaces who have been taught that cops in general are the enemy, and sing songs celebrating and glorifying their killing.

    Along with this, I would call for the release of all non-violent drug offenders, ending the war on drugs, and increase de-escalation training over tactical training.
    Hard Drugs no, Soft Drugs I think you have a good point.
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    It should of he's a professional. If she wasn't arrested, this was assault.
    Ok, then charges should be filed....Why don't you do it on her behalf....You can do that you know.

    Police work is safe, it's mortality rate per 100,000 is only SLIGHTLY higher than civillian. The reform I call for is the removal of almost all tactical, military style gear. a return to on the street policing (get out of the car and become part of the neighborhood). I would even go so far as to say that if civillians aren't allowed to carry in an area, neither should cops.
    So, your argument is that police work isn't dangerous enough? Really? Are you a LEO? if not, why not?

    so if you think taking away all the military toys from patrol officers, is going to make a larger "us vs them" mentality, I think we have the wrong people as police then.
    I see, so you don't like that SWAT teams are buying up MRAP's....is that it???? All that from the destruction of a damned cell phone? Really?

    Along with this, I would call for the release of all non-violent drug offenders, ending the war on drugs, and increase de-escalation training over tactical training.
    Hell, why stop there? I mean after all a cell phone gets destroyed, and we should empty the jails....spot on there Rev....
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Why does it matter what percentage of cops are bad actors, let's just get rid of them.
    All of them? Oh man....anarchy at its finest....
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