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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    That is probably the most plausible scenario. The lady chose to act like a bitch, and he reacted angrily and therefore unprofessionally.
    Yep....Like I said before, the person across the street filming what happened to here didn't generate the reaction from the Marshall's on scene, so, proximity, and taunting, not very smart on her part.
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Under what legal precident or law?
    I wouldn't know the specifics. There is such a thing as LES information, however, and it is protected the same as any other classification.

    You are going to have to paint me a picture here. Give me an example.
    of criminal counter-intelligence? or of how identifying undercover cops and passing their photographs around poses a potential threat to them.

    I've built **** with old phones (nothing illegal), most see it on teh tv.
    about half the stuff I've seen, I've seen post-detonation.

    I don't disagree with your position, I don't think you can make a case where it applies to a civillian holding a cell phone.
    I don't know if you can make it applying to this instance of someone holding a cell phone (I would suspect you can't), but I can think of possibilities where they can be.

    it is legal, and proper to film the police.
    Under most circumstances, yes. Under some, no.
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yep....Like I said before, the person across the street filming what happened to here didn't generate the reaction from the Marshall's on scene, so, proximity, and taunting, not very smart on her part.
    True. What is unfortunate is that her misbehavior is probably about to be rewarded, due to the cops reaction.
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I wouldn't know the specifics. There is such a thing as LES information, however, and it is protected the same as any other classification.
    So we don't know and simply should defer to the departments....


    of criminal counter-intelligence? or of how identifying undercover cops and passing their photographs around poses a potential threat to them.

    No of use of cell phones for illegal counter intelligence. Is it illegal to post pictures of known undercover cops? Why?


    about half the stuff I've seen, I've seen post-detonation.

    How many cell phone activated bombs have you seen? seriously.



    I don't know if you can make it applying to this instance of someone holding a cell phone (I would suspect you can't), but I can think of possibilities where they can be.



    Under most circumstances, yes. Under some, no.


    Why no under some? like what for example.


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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    True. What is unfortunate is that her misbehavior is probably about to be rewarded, due to the cops reaction.
    Yes, and the LATimes gets to further the narrative.
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh for Jezbus sake! It really isn't that complicated.....I'll lay it out again just for you Rev, even though I've said it multiple times throughout the thread....

    1. I do NOT condone the Marshall's action in that snippet of video.

    2. I also believe that the woman taking the video on her camera was too close to the police operation thereby causing an impediment to the safe carrying out of that operation, and was taunting the officers as they did their jobs.

    3. Should the incident be reported and investigated? Yes. The woman should absolutely follow up, and the Deputy Marshall should have to face the consequences of his actions on the scene.

    4. This in my view though is one instance that the media got a hold of that fits rather neatly today into their narrative of police being out of control, therefore they ran a story with a fair amount of speculation that fits what they want to project, and clearly some in here are falling for it.

    how's that?

    1. good.

    2. if so they should have arrested her.

    3. agreed

    4. Police are out of control, they are recruited by swat videos, and taught an "us vs them" "going into battle" mindset. far to often with deadly results. we need reform.


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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So we don't know and simply should defer to the departments....
    The incident is being investigated. That's good. Probably he will be found to be in the wrong - and if so, punished, which is also good. There should be a higher standard for those entrusted with power and public trust.

    No of use of cell phones for illegal counter intelligence. Is it illegal to post pictures of known undercover cops? Why?
    I wouldn't be able to tell you offhand. However, doing so not only interferes with police investigations (a crime) but also threatens their lives and the lives of their family.

    How many cell phone activated bombs have you seen? seriously.
    Hm. Maybe a couple of dozen? More than 12, less than 25, probably.

    Why no under some? like what for example.
    like the ones I have already given you.
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That's fine for us, but I am pretty sure that the Marshall service isn't monitoring DP for our advice on how to manage their Deputies....



    Oh yeah, I'm sure that police forces all over the nation are tuning into DP to see what we have to say about their officers....They're shakin in their boots I tell ya....



    Based on the limited information we know in here, this is somewhat reasonable...Other factors would have to come into play of course...Does this Marshall have a record of complaints of mistreatment of suspects? has he done this sort of thing before? How long has he been a Marshall? Just what was the woman saying to him as he tried to do his job? Like I have been saying, to take a snippet in time from the total incident and ongoing operation being preformed only serves on purpose, and that is to continue the narrative that police are out of control from the media...I'm just saying that you have to take stuff like this with a grain of salt, and not be played.
    You mean to say that the government, federal and local, doesn't comb through DP searching for nuggets of truth on which to base policy?

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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac
    4. This in my view though is one instance that the media got a hold of that fits rather neatly today into their narrative of police being out of control, therefore they ran a story with a fair amount of speculation that fits what they want to project, and clearly some in here are falling for it.
    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    4. Police are out of control, they are recruited by swat videos, and taught an "us vs them" "going into battle" mindset. far to often with deadly results. we need reform.
    well, J-man, I think you pretty much called that one.
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    Re: Cop snatches phone and smashes it (gets caught on video anyway)

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    1. good.
    yep.

    2. if so they should have arrested her.
    maybe, but they didn't...Would an arrest of the woman, mitigated the Marshall smashing her phone? I say no. Plus, I think they had bigger fish to fry at the moment.

    3. agreed
    Great.

    4. Police are out of control, they are recruited by swat videos, and taught an "us vs them" "going into battle" mindset. far to often with deadly results. we need reform.
    Problem is the "reform" you're advocating would make that us v. them situation worse...Police are already outnumbered in society today, can you imagine how they would feel if their ability to use force was neutered?
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