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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    It goes back to a critical difference between conservative and liberal thought. A Conservative believes that a business opens to earn money for the owner, and he earns that money by providing goods or services. A liberal believes that businesses are social services entities that open to provide goods and services and in so doing they earn money.
    Wrong.

    An intelligent business owner considers customers, their community, and a host of other things in addition to themselves.

    It's called being a good corporate citizen.
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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Wrong.

    An intelligent business owner considers customers, their community, and a host of other things in addition to themselves.

    It's called being a good corporate citizen.
    Case in point (after you untangle the code words)

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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So they had plenty of time to have inspectors and various contractors to look at those problems and tell them what needs to be done. So the idea that they don't know yet as their excuse for not having permits doesn't fly.
    I heard that the unions won't let the union plumbers go to the Wal-Mart stores and that in some states you can't have you own plumbers unless they are in the union so this is looking like a union hit job to force Wal-Mart to open up to unions but Wal-Mart closed the stores and laid people off.
    Some suspect that the Wal-Mart employees caused the plumbing problems and no store can stay open without restrooms.


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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron River View Post
    I heard that the unions won't let the union plumbers go to the Wal-Mart stores and that in some states you can't have you own plumbers unless they are in the union so this is looking like a union hit job to force Wal-Mart to open up to unions but Wal-Mart closed the stores and laid people off.Some suspect that the Wal-Mart employees caused the plumbing problems and no store can stay open without restrooms.
    That theory would hold water if these closures only happened in California and other none right to work states. Oklahoma and Texas are right to work states and there are plenty of plumbers who are not part of unions.
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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    It goes back to a critical difference between conservative and liberal thought. A Conservative believes that a business opens to earn money for the owner, and he earns that money by providing goods or services. A liberal believes that businesses are social services entities that open to provide goods and services and in so doing they earn money.
    Many people regardless if they are conservative or liberal believe that workers have a right to collectively bargain for better pay and work conditions.
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    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    That they had time doesn't mean they utilized that time to do as you wish. They may not have wanted that kind of activity in a store open to customers
    These stores are open 24/7.Usually after midnight while the stores are still open they close off sections of the store to clean and re stock shelves. Heck sometimes they close off sections during the day when they are rearranging or remodeling certain sections of the the store. I seriously doubt they would have any problem with inspectors or contractors looking at the plumbing work.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    I've just finished construction on a small kitchen addition to a bar in North Carolina. The design and plans took the architect a month. The plans were submitted to the building department and plan review took a month. The construction cost was about sixty grand plus equipment and it's taken a month. This was three months for a kitchen which was roughly three hundred square feet.

    That doesn't mean that I know how long it takes to work on a Walmart, especially since all I know about the scope of work is people bitching about it on the internet.
    your little small kitchen is nothing compared to the commercial builidngs which have a completely different set of codes that it has to follow.
    the scope of work is not even the same.

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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    These stores are open 24/7.Usually after midnight while the stores are still open they close off sections of the store to clean and re stock shelves. Heck sometimes they close off sections during the day when they are rearranging or remodeling certain sections of the the store. I seriously doubt they would have any problem with inspectors or contractors looking at the plumbing work.
    it depends on where the plumbing issues are at. if they are under the floor then that means cutting concrete.
    again you are making assumptions with no facts to back it up.

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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    your little small kitchen is nothing compared to the commercial builidngs which have a completely different set of codes that it has to follow.
    the scope of work is not even the same.
    Sorry, I've been doing this all my adult life. There aren't little building codes and big building codes. The scope of work is different but the codes are the same. You have no idea about what you are talking about.
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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Sorry, I've been doing this all my adult life. There aren't little building codes and big building codes. The scope of work is different but the codes are the same. You have no idea about what you are talking about.
    yea right anyone who knows anything about construction knows that there are different building codes and requirements for commercial property vs residential property.
    thank you for proving you have no clue about what you are talking about.

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