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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Do these walmarts have the permits for the plumbing work and why would it it take six months for plumbing? I do not know about the walmarts in other states but I do know that the walmart closed in Tulsa was built only around 20 years ago.The store was built from the ground up instead of a remodel or expansion of an existing store. I can't picture plumbing work back then being so shotty it would warrant closing the store for six months.Nor can I imagine it taking 6 months to fix plumbing problems.
    I dunno, but considering the Keystone Pipeline plumbing delays, I think 6 months is perfectly acceptable for plumbing these days.

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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Let us, for a moment, assume Walmart would simply like to rid itself of a particularly troublesome store and without bringing down the wrath of a government agency that was, at one time, dedicated to driving the American aircraft industry out of the country.

    Simple enough.

    Propose a huge rebuild of the plumbing in the affected buildings. File very detailed plans, ensuring that some element of them would require a complete environmental review.

    Presto.

    Problem gone.

    The official bureaucracy would take so long to process the paperwork that none of the present laid-off workers would have not died of natural causes before any work toward someday reopening could even begin.

    Let bureaucracy eat its own!

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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Being a person who does not believe much in coincidence, it seems highly improbable that several stores in several locations suddenly developed similar problems that require a six month closing. Being a person who does not believe that the largest retailer in the world has an executive force that is dumb enough to attempt a bluff of this magnitude, I doubt that this story was dreamed up by Walmart.

    What I have not seen mentioned in conjunction with this story is the possibility of sabotage.

    A few gallons of concrete dumped in a few toilets could cause a problem requiring 6 months repair.

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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    There better be a whole lot more proof than "nobody requested a permit yet".

    I've had experience with the NLRB and they are bullies, plain and simple.

    I do not know about the other stores but as of yet there are no plumbing and building permits in the Tulsa store on admiral and memorial. Closings do not happen over night, They take planning.So they had plenty of time to get the permits needed.
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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I dunno, but considering the Keystone Pipeline plumbing delays, I think 6 months is perfectly acceptable for plumbing these days.
    The keystone XL is a pipeline covering thousands of miles that stretches from Canada to Texas and it has eminent domain and environmental concerns that is keeping it from being built.And we have a President who caters to his envirowacko base. Once we get a republican president that president will have is lips firmly planted on TransCanada's testicles and ignore their property rights voter base of the republican party and okay the Keystone XL. It has nothing to do with Walmart's alleged plumbing problems.

    3 of those walmarts are in conservative states and at least one of those in a city with a republican mayor, so there should be no issue getting the necessary permits.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The keystone XL is a pipeline covering thousands of miles that stretches from Canada to Texas and it has eminent domain and environmental concerns that is keeping it from being built.And we have a President who caters to his envirowacko base. Once we get a republican president that president will have is lips firmly planted on TransCanada's testicles and ignore their property rights voter base of the republican party and okay the Keystone XL. It has nothing to do with Walmart's alleged plumbing problems.

    3 of those walmarts are in conservative states and at least one of those in a city with a republican mayor, so there should be no issue getting the necessary permits.
    Ah well. Damn those contractors, anyway. I don't expect Canada is too anxious for the pipeline to be built now, anyway. They have other options. I'm not sure what the political affiliation would have to do with construction permits, but I'll take your word for it that republicans have the ability to streamline that process, whereas democrats don't.

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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Actually it is. One of the whole reasons we have the National Labor Relations Board
    I thought Obama had packed the NLRB full of pro-union hacks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    There better be a whole lot more proof than "nobody requested a permit yet".

    I've had experience with the NLRB and they are bullies, plain and simple.
    Yeah, I can imagine, especially now if Obama did what I think he did. Must be part of Obama's 'transformation of America' he wanted so much = government bullying of anyone who disagrees with him.
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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Being a person who does not believe much in coincidence, it seems highly improbable that several stores in several locations suddenly developed similar problems that require a six month closing. Being a person who does not believe that the largest retailer in the world has an executive force that is dumb enough to attempt a bluff of this magnitude, I doubt that this story was dreamed up by Walmart.

    What I have not seen mentioned in conjunction with this story is the possibility of sabotage.

    A few gallons of concrete dumped in a few toilets could cause a problem requiring 6 months repair.

    JMO
    The problems aren't sudden but rather ongoing. It's only the closings that are sudden

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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not know about the other stores but as of yet there are no plumbing and building permits in the Tulsa store on admiral and memorial. Closings do not happen over night, They take planning.So they had plenty of time to get the permits needed.
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    I've never heard of a permit being required to conduct plumbing repairs

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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    I thought Obama had packed the NLRB full of pro-union hacks.
    Na it was established in 1935 to ensure that employees are not being unfairly treated, and to ensure that employers are held accountable. Long before Obama had anything to do with appointments.
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