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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    yea right anyone who knows anything about construction knows that there are different building codes and requirements for commercial property vs residential property.
    thank you for proving you have no clue about what you are talking about.
    We aren't talking about residential versus commercial. You said there were different codes for a small commercial kitchen and large commercial projects. Now you are trying to spin your original claim. While it's true that codes vary by construction type this discussion is about Walmart and nobody mentioned residential construction.

    Commercial codes are commercial codes. My little kitchen happens to be in the ground floor in a nine story high rise office building. Again, you don't know what you're talking about. Try to stay on topic and you won't look like such a dick. We are talking about commercial construction and how long it takes to renovate the five Walmarts that recently closed and how long they might be closed for renovation and wether it's necessary to permit the work which nobody here knows anything about without knowing the scope of work.

    Stay on topic.
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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    We aren't talking about residential versus commercial. You said there were different codes for a small commercial kitchen and large commercial projects. Now you are trying to spin your original claim. While it's true that codes vary by construction type this discussion is about Walmart and nobody mentioned residential construction.
    no I didn't have a nice day.

    Commercial codes are commercial codes. My little kitchen happens to be in the ground floor in a nine story high rise office building. Again, you don't know what you're talking about. Try to stay on topic and you won't look like such a dick. We are talking about commercial construction and how long it takes to renovate the five Walmarts that recently closed and how long they might be closed for renovation and wether it's necessary to permit the work which nobody here knows anything about without knowing the scope of work.

    Stay on topic.
    yes there are different building codes for commercial buidlings than residential. and you mentioned nothing of an office building you said you rebuilt a kitchen.
    if you can't be specific in what you are talking about then how is anyone else supposed to know.

    the fact is that walmart has to pull commercial permits to do any work in the building and depending on the scope those can take awhile.

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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    no I didn't have a nice day.



    yes there are different building codes for commercial buidlings than residential. and you mentioned nothing of an office building you said you rebuilt a kitchen.
    if you can't be specific in what you are talking about then how is anyone else supposed to know.

    the fact is that walmart has to pull commercial permits to do any work in the building and depending on the scope those can take awhile.
    Walmart can change fixtures without a permit. Beyond that a permit is likely.
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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Walmart is a private company (I.e. Non-governmental) and as such should be, IMO, able to hire and fire/layoff anyone for any reason. And if they are closing five stores strictly to send a message to their workers that griping about low wages will not be tolerated...FINE WITH ME (from a legal perspective).
    None of these people have to work at Walmart. They won't starve or be without medical benefits or shelter or clothing (all thanks to welfare)...so Walmart owes them nothing but to follow health/safety practices and pay them what they promised to pay them...THAT IS IT.
    And if Walmart wants to scare employees out of whining about higher pay...fine with me (again, legally). Just like it is fine with me if those same employees ask for more money.
    Now, personally, IF that is why Walmart closed those stores, I don't personally feel that is a smart way to conduct business. But it IS there business and as such I feel they have the right to run it in that way (even if I personally do not think it is wise).
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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Many people regardless if they are conservative or liberal believe that workers have a right to collectively bargain for better pay and work conditions.
    St. Reagan thought so.
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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    That theory would hold water if these closures only happened in California and other none right to work states. Oklahoma and Texas are right to work states and there are plenty of plumbers who are not part of unions.
    Are you saying that Wal-Mart is saying that all of the closures are due plumbing problems? They close stores all over the place when the market won't support them.

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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    That theory would hold water if these closures only happened in California and other none right to work states. Oklahoma and Texas are right to work states and there are plenty of plumbers who are not part of unions.
    Didn't Wally World say the closures were temporary?
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    Re: Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Didn't Wally World say the closures were temporary?
    I seriously doubt those workers would stay unemployed for 4 months instead of six months assuming they got two months severance..
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