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    Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    April 19, 2015

    TEHRAN, Iran International nuclear inspectors will be barred from all Iranian military sites under any deal with world powers, a senior commander in the Revolutionary Guard said Sunday, setting up a possible standoff as negotiators try to reach a final deal.

    Gen. Hossein Salami, the Guard's deputy leader, told Iranian state television that allowing foreign inspection of military sites is tantamount to "selling out," raising the stakes as talks between Iran and the six-nation group are to resume April 22 in Vienna. "We will respond with hot lead (bullets) to those who speak of it," Salami said. "Iran will not become a paradise for spies. We will not roll out the red carpet for the enemy."
    As far as I am concerned, if this is Tehran's official position, then it is a deal breaker.

    Nuclear weapons are under the custody and supervision of the military in every nation that has declared itself to be a nuclear-weapon nation. Iran has long been suspected of running two parallel nuclear programs ... one program for the purpose of generating energy and another separate military program to fabricate nuclear warheads and ballistic delivery systems.

    The P5+1 nations are negotiating with Iran for the express purpose of guaranteeing that an Iranian military program to acquire nuclear weapons is impossible under strict parameters and an intrusive inspections regimen for the duration of any mutually accepted deal. This lofty goal however, cannot be achieved without the capability of the IAEA to inspect military facilities suspected of nuclear weapons research or uranium enrichment.

    Contrary to what is imagined or purported by some, such inspections are not requested on a whim. The IAEA has many highly sophisticated tools to detect possible activity without entering a facility. They would only request access to a military facility if unequivocal technical/documentary evidence exists which demands an in-depth examination to either verify or dismiss suspicions.

    Without this critical capability, any P5+1 deal with Iran is illusion and a sham.

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    This deal was obviousl ill conceived from the start. Kerry is an incompetent boob. End of story.
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    This is clearly just chest-pumping for the locals.

    What the generals say means nothing...now if the negotiators (who say what they are told from the leaders) say this, then it's something.

    Maybe they will, I dunno.

    But what some testosterone-filled Iranian general says means as much as what a testosterone-filled American General says on these matters...next to nothing.
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    This is clearly just chest-pumping for the locals.

    What the generals say means nothing...now if the negotiators (who say what they are told from the leaders) say this, then it's something.

    Maybe they will, I dunno.

    But what some testosterone-filled Iranian general says means as much as what a testosterone-filled American General says on these matters...next to nothing.
    Perhaps it is chest thumping, but I wouldn't say that what Generals have to say is nothing. Generals are one of the leading causes of coups.

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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

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    As far as I am concerned, if this is Tehran's official position, then it is a deal breaker.

    Nuclear weapons are under the custody and supervision of the military in every nation that has declared itself to be a nuclear-weapon nation. Iran has long been suspected of running two parallel nuclear programs ... one program for the purpose of generating energy and another separate military program to fabricate nuclear warheads and ballistic delivery systems.

    The P5+1 nations are negotiating with Iran for the express purpose of guaranteeing that an Iranian military program to acquire nuclear weapons is impossible under strict parameters and an intrusive inspections regimen for the duration of any mutually accepted deal. This lofty goal however, cannot be achieved without the capability of the IAEA to inspect military facilities suspected of nuclear weapons research or uranium enrichment.

    Contrary to what is imagined or purported by some, such inspections are not requested on a whim. The IAEA has many highly sophisticated tools to detect possible activity without entering a facility. They would only request access to a military facility if unequivocal technical/documentary evidence exists which demands an in-depth examination to either verify or dismiss suspicions.

    Without this critical capability, any P5+1 deal with Iran is illusion and a sham.
    It would certainly be more dangerous than no deal at all. But that could put the international sanctions program in jeopardy leaving the US with some very unpalatable choices.

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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    This is clearly just chest-pumping for the locals.

    What the generals say means nothing...now if the negotiators (who say what they are told from the leaders) say this, then it's something.

    Maybe they will, I dunno.

    But what some testosterone-filled Iranian general says means as much as what a testosterone-filled American General says on these matters...next to nothing.
    Perhaps it is chest thumping, but I wouldn't say that what Generals have to say is nothing. Generals are one of the leading causes of coups.[/QUOTE]

    One would hope you are right. But that might not be the way Iran works, if the past is any guide.

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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    But what some testosterone-filled Iranian general says means as much as what a testosterone-filled American General says on these matters...next to nothing.
    You can't compare this to a General in the US military. The Iranian Republican Guard Corps (125,000) is an independent arm of the Iranian military. Somewhat reminiscent of how the Nazi SS was independent of the German military. It has its own land/air/sea forces and its main task is not to protect Iran, but to protect the Iranian revolutionary regime. It controls the special operations Quds Force and the civilian Basij militia (90,000). It also has extensive land holdings and owns roughly one-fifth of all Iranian corporate enterprises. The IRGC is *highly influential* at all levels of the Iranian regime.

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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    What's this? Obama and Kerry are just back shouting "Peace in our time" and now they're being rebuffed by the people they thought they had a deal with?

    Shocking.

    Why that never happened before in history....oh wait.
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    it's not like there are any highly placed iranian officials who so object to an agreement that they would say things hoping to undermine it
    you know, like highly placed America officials who object to an agreement
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    it's not like there are any highly placed iranian officials who so object to an agreement that they would say things hoping to undermine it
    you know, like highly placed America officials who object to an agreement
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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