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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    We are, as well as the IAEA, which is used by the US when it's to our political advantage and dismissed when not. Sorry about the full box, it's empty now.
    Well the AEIA just finished up with a report that has some serious concerns. Which they noted. It was Team BO that just ignored that report as well as pulling back on a complaint they filed.

    Moreover you always mention Israel......but the fact of the matter is. The Sunni are not going to allow Iran to have a Nuke to threaten them with. Nor to play the innuendo game with them. The Saud will match all Iran has and then what? Plus Egypt will have theirs, then Jordan, Then Qatar and the UAE.

    Israel isn't either the Shia nor the Sunnis #1 priority.

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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well the AEIA just finished up with a report that has some serious concerns. Which they noted. It was Team BO that just ignored that report as well as pulling back on a complaint they filed.

    Moreover you always mention Israel......but the fact of the matter is. The Sunni are not going to allow Iran to have a Nuke to threaten them with. Nor to play the innuendo game with them. The Saud will match all Iran has and then what? Plus Egypt will have theirs, then Jordan, Then Qatar and the UAE.

    Israel isn't either the Shia nor the Sunnis #1 priority.
    I understand that Israel isn't priority #1, but with that freak in Israel breathing threats and repeating his false claims for twenty five years, I understand Iran's concerns. I've long stated that I would prefer global nuclear eradication, and am disappointed that the US remains the only nuclear power to have used them. But it may be a possibility that Iran has decided that becoming such a power is in their vital interests. I hope not, but as long as things are as ****ed up in the ME, due in large part to Bush/Obama policy (as well as even earlier policies) I can see how many in the region are going to want to hold the security. What I don't buy for a minute is anybody actually using them on anyone else. It's not so hard to do when you're the only nuclear power (1945), but quite different when folk have them pointed back at you. In any event, I'm not hyperventilating over Iran like so many are. I saw the same bull**** about Iraq in 2002/3 and again over Gaddafi in 2011, but it's all bull****.
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I understand that Israel isn't priority #1, but with that freak in Israel breathing threats and repeating his false claims for twenty five years, I understand Iran's concerns.
    What false claims are those?

    I've long stated that I would prefer global nuclear eradication, and am disappointed that the US remains the only nuclear power to have used them.
    You want other countries to use nuclear weapons also? Which ones?

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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You too denying that Bush told them to get out before they had completed their work.
    Post a link where I ever stated such a thing. You can't ... because nothing of the sort exists. All you're really interested in is diversion from Fordow.

    Why divert? Because it's impossible for you to defend Iran with the Fordow-nuclear-elephant running about the china-shop.


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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What false claims are those?

    You want other countries to use nuclear weapons also? Which ones?
    That Iran is perpetually a year or three away from having a nuclear weapon.

    How does a desire for global nuclear eradication equate in your little mind to a desire for countries to use nukes, hmm?
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Post a link where I ever stated such a thing. You can't ... because nothing of the sort exists. All you're really interested in is diversion from Fordow.

    Why divert? Because it's impossible for you to defend Iran with the Fordow-nuclear-elephant running about the china-shop.
    Where's the diversion? First of all, the US will dispense with the IAEA as soon as it's decided that the bombing must begin, that's been demonstrated. Secondly, I've addressed Fordow multiple times. Here's your last one. There's a freak in Israel that is determined to bomb Iran's nuclear program, it doesn't matter that it's never confirmed that it's for weapons. Do you finally understand why Iran would want to hide it?
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Where's the diversion? First of all, the US will dispense with the IAEA as soon as it's decided that the bombing must begin, that's been demonstrated.
    Amazing. You can also predict the future.

    Secondly, I've addressed Fordow multiple times. Here's your last one. There's a freak in Israel that is determined to bomb Iran's nuclear program, it doesn't matter that it's never confirmed that it's for weapons. Do you finally understand why Iran would want to hide it?
    Building Fordow underground for protection from Israel is not the problem.

    Hiding it from the IAEA for three years IS the problem.

    Iran created this verification problem all by itself. This is why IAEA inspections must be robust.


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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites


    As far as I am concerned, if this is Tehran's official position, then it is a deal breaker.

    Nuclear weapons are under the custody and supervision of the military in every nation that has declared itself to be a nuclear-weapon nation. Iran has long been suspected of running two parallel nuclear programs ... one program for the purpose of generating energy and another separate military program to fabricate nuclear warheads and ballistic delivery systems.

    The P5+1 nations are negotiating with Iran for the express purpose of guaranteeing that an Iranian military program to acquire nuclear weapons is impossible under strict parameters and an intrusive inspections regimen for the duration of any mutually accepted deal. This lofty goal however, cannot be achieved without the capability of the IAEA to inspect military facilities suspected of nuclear weapons research or uranium enrichment.

    Contrary to what is imagined or purported by some, such inspections are not requested on a whim. The IAEA has many highly sophisticated tools to detect possible activity without entering a facility. They would only request access to a military facility if unequivocal technical/documentary evidence exists which demands an in-depth examination to either verify or dismiss suspicions.

    Without this critical capability, any P5+1 deal with Iran is illusion and a sham.
    Well, this imo just confirms that those nuclear sites are more about military power than providing energy for everyone in the country. If a nuclear site is under military control instead of a civilian government control then there is no reason to think that the use for such a site is anything other than what a military would want nuclear power for. And it sure as hell isn't to power their machine guns.
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Well, this imo just confirms that those nuclear sites are more about military power than providing energy for everyone in the country. If a nuclear site is under military control instead of a civilian government control then there is no reason to think that the use for such a site is anything other than what a military would want nuclear power for. And it sure as hell isn't to power their machine guns.
    Iran's nuclear program is managed and safeguarded by the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) which is the military protectorate of the Iranian regime.

    Excluding suspect military facilities from inspection guarantees Iran safe refuge from the IAEA.


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