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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Sen. Graham lists conditions for 'yes' vote on Iran nuclear deal

    Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) has outlined eight conditions to obtain his vote when Congress debates any Iran final agreement.

    — Reject any nuclear deal with Iran that doesn't allow for inspections of the country's military facilities.

    — Allow Iran to enrich only enough uranium to supply one commercial nuclear power reactor.

    — Close all nuclear sites in Iran not related to its nuclear power program.

    — Require that inspectors certify Iran's compliance over time before any sanctions are lifted and any money held in escrow is released to Iran.

    — Provide a clear process for sanctions to be reinstated if Iran violates the deal.

    — Ban Iran from conducting research and development on advanced centrifuges.

    — Remove all enriched uranium from Iran.

    — Require President Obama to certify that Iran is no longer a state sponsor of terrorism before restrictions on Iran's nuclear program are lifted.

    I can't disagree with any of the above. I would further add:

    — All active centrifuge units shall be of the IR-1 model.

    — Iran must satisfy all 20 pre-negotiation IAEA demands.

    — The IAEA shall have the power to inspect any declared or suspect nuclear facility immediately and without constraints. This shall also apply to related housed-documents and data-networks.
    this would kill any agreement

    then when iran completes the business of building a nuke, it will be the neocons in congress we can look to for causing the proliferation

    meanwhile, the other major nations that participated in the agreement will resume trade with iran in recognition it acted in good faith

    net result, iran has THE bomb and we lost a potential long term partner in extinguishing isis

    that sissy, graham, will have accomplished a lot
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    this would kill any agreement
    Ah. And why is that?

    then when iran completes the business of building a nuke, it will be the neocons in congress we can look to for causing the proliferation
    On the contrary, we can look to those who chose to delay delay delay degrading or destroying their program, both in the Bush and the Obama administrations, under the theory that the Iranians were serious negotiators.
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites


    As far as I am concerned, if this is Tehran's official position, then it is a deal breaker.

    Nuclear weapons are under the custody and supervision of the military in every nation that has declared itself to be a nuclear-weapon nation. Iran has long been suspected of running two parallel nuclear programs ... one program for the purpose of generating energy and another separate military program to fabricate nuclear warheads and ballistic delivery systems.

    The P5+1 nations are negotiating with Iran for the express purpose of guaranteeing that an Iranian military program to acquire nuclear weapons is impossible under strict parameters and an intrusive inspections regimen for the duration of any mutually accepted deal. This lofty goal however, cannot be achieved without the capability of the IAEA to inspect military facilities suspected of nuclear weapons research or uranium enrichment.

    Contrary to what is imagined or purported by some, such inspections are not requested on a whim. The IAEA has many highly sophisticated tools to detect possible activity without entering a facility. They would only request access to a military facility if unequivocal technical/documentary evidence exists which demands an in-depth examination to either verify or dismiss suspicions.

    Without this critical capability, any P5+1 deal with Iran is illusion and a sham.
    Well thankfully you're not the deal maker! No nation is going to submit to inspections of all their military installations. It's counter to national security. The inspections should be to nuclear energy program installations.
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    this would kill any agreement

    then when iran completes the business of building a nuke, it will be the neocons in congress we can look to for causing the proliferation

    meanwhile, the other major nations that participated in the agreement will resume trade with iran in recognition it acted in good faith

    net result, iran has THE bomb and we lost a potential long term partner in extinguishing isis

    that sissy, graham, will have accomplished a lot
    Spot on Bubba!!
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    this would kill any agreement

    then when iran completes the business of building a nuke, it will be the neocons in congress we can look to for causing the proliferation

    meanwhile, the other major nations that participated in the agreement will resume trade with iran in recognition it acted in good faith

    net result, iran has THE bomb and we lost a potential long term partner in extinguishing isis

    that sissy, graham, will have accomplished a lot
    Only the completely delusional would assert that not allowing inspections of military sites is "acting in good faith", the plan is dead the sanctions will continue and Iran remains an assbackwards pariah nation living in the 5th century.

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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well thankfully you're not the deal maker! No nation is going to submit to inspections of all their military installations. It's counter to national security. The inspections should be to nuclear energy program installations.
    The assertion that inspections will have any effect whatsoever if we are not allowed to inspect their military bases is the most delusional bull**** I have ever heard.

    "Uh ya sure officer you can search my house but those trailers in my back yard with all the fumes are off limits".

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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    Only the completely delusional would assert that not allowing inspections of military sites is "acting in good faith", the plan is dead the sanctions will continue and Iran remains an assbackwards pariah nation living in the 5th century.
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No nation is going to submit to inspections of all their military installations.
    No one said all military bases. "Suspect" military bases.

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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    No one said all military bases. "Suspect" military bases.
    Suspect by whom. Suspicions have placed us in unnecessary wars before.
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Suspect by whom. Suspicions have placed us in unnecessary wars before.
    Suspected by the IAEA ... the UN authority tasked with investigating NPT compliance issues.

    If the IAEA cannot investigate a suspicious facility ... then NPT compliance is unobtainable.

    Failure to be nuclear-transparent is one of the many reasons Iran is currently under international sanctions.

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