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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    So can we just nuke the Iranians now? Oh wait dammit, there's still Russia and China to deal with and they probably won't let us.

    Well, **** the Guard, they're stupid anyway and if Iran was able to acquire a nuke no one would be in trouble except for the Israelis (don't they have nukes themselves?).
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    This is clearly just chest-pumping for the locals.

    What the generals say means nothing...now if the negotiators (who say what they are told from the leaders) say this, then it's something.

    Maybe they will, I dunno.

    But what some testosterone-filled Iranian general says means as much as what a testosterone-filled American General says on these matters...next to nothing.
    This "chest thumping for the locals" meme one sees among the left wingers attempting to breath life into Kerry's efforts is an astonishing exercise in wishful thinking. I seriously doubt that the generals would be saying this if the Sayyid Ali Khamenei, Supreme Leader, didn't approve. Khamenei's own comments lend support to the idea that the "framework" is a zombie. Literally none of the important points in negotiations are agreed to at this point. I can't think of no reason for them to insist that there's any sort of agreement at all other than the American politics entailed.

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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    it's not like there are any highly placed iranian officials who so object to an agreement that they would say things hoping to undermine it
    you know, like highly placed America officials who object to an agreement
    Do you have proof that the American side is lying about this? or is it just what political opponents of yours predicted so you have to throw out the lie?...
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Do you have proof that the American side is lying about this? or is it just what political opponents of yours predicted so you have to throw out the lie?...
    lying about what, exactly?
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    lying about what, exactly?
    You were implying that American's were lying about the Iranian generals refusing inspection of military sites....I'd like to see your proof of such.

    My guess is you don't have any and are talking out of another orifice.
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You were implying that American's were lying about the Iranian generals refusing inspection of military sites....I'd like to see your proof of such.

    My guess is you don't have any and are talking out of another orifice.
    my point was that high ranking iranian officials opposed to an agreement would be inclined to speak out in opposition to it just as high ranking American officials would speak out in objection to such an agreement
    not surprised something so simple was lost on you
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Except the power structure doesn't operate that way in Iran. No IRGC General would state such a declaration in public without his message being vetted.


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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    So can we just nuke the Iranians now? Oh wait dammit, there's still Russia and China to deal with and they probably won't let us.

    Well, **** the Guard, they're stupid anyway and if Iran was able to acquire a nuke no one would be in trouble except for the Israelis (don't they have nukes themselves?).
    According to our administration, all options are on the table. Must be a really big table, huh? I can think of a lot of options.

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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    This is clearly just chest-pumping for the locals.

    What the generals say means nothing...now if the negotiators (who say what they are told from the leaders) say this, then it's something.

    Maybe they will, I dunno.

    But what some testosterone-filled Iranian general says means as much as what a testosterone-filled American General says on these matters...next to nothing.


    Oh?

    You are there?

    I love how the groveling Obama lovers always "explain" to us dolts what the Iranians are really saying...."death to america" means "hey, bro, 'sup"
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