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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    From Reuters:

    The Czech Republic blocked an attempted purchase by Iran this year of a large shipment of sensitive technology useable for nuclear enrichment after false documentation raised suspicions, U.N. experts and Western sources said.

    Exclusive: Czechs stopped potential nuclear tech purchase by Iran: sources | Reuters

    This example highlights anew the need that international inspectors have unfettered access to any actual or suspected nuclear site in Iran. The false documentation undercuts Iranian trustworthiness. That the technology had nuclear enrichment implications can only raise concerns about the nature of Iran's nuclear activities.
    So these compressors have dual application, and Iran attempted the purchase from a US company? Interesting.

    The panel said that in January Iran attempted to buy compressors - which have nuclear and non-nuclear applications - made by the U.S.-owned company Howden CKD Compressors.

    The IAEA and the United States have said repeatedly that Tehran has adhered to the terms of the 2013 interim deal.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0NY2K720150513
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So these compressors have dual application, and Iran attempted the purchase from a US company? Interesting.

    The panel said that in January Iran attempted to buy compressors - which have nuclear and non-nuclear applications - made by the U.S.-owned company Howden CKD Compressors.

    The IAEA and the United States have said repeatedly that Tehran has adhered to the terms of the 2013 interim deal.

    Exclusive: Czechs stopped potential nuclear tech purchase by Iran: sources | Reuters
    I'm not sure the IAEA was aware of this attempted transaction at the time it issued its last report. If Iran were acting in a transparent fashion, there would have been no need to falsify the documentation. The IAEA's report to be made public either late this month or early next month may provide more insight as to the IAEA's position regarding this attempted transaction.

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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I'm not sure the IAEA was aware of this attempted transaction at the time it issued its last report. If Iran were acting in a transparent fashion, there would have been no need to falsify the documentation. The IAEA's report to be made public either late this month or early next month may provide more insight as to the IAEA's position regarding this attempted transaction.
    Yes, seems stupid in fact to me. If they're trying to purchase something that they're not suppose to be purchasing, though these compressors have more than one use, so I fail to see the conflict necessarily, then why in the heck are they trying to by them from the US of all people on falsified documents, knowing damn well the scrutiny their under? Seems fishy somehow.
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    From today's edition of The Washington Post:

    Iran’s supreme leader vowed Wednesday he will not allow international inspection of Iran’s military sites or access to Iranian scientists under any nuclear agreement with world powers...

    “The impudent and brazen enemy expects that we allow them talk to our scientists and researchers about a fundamental local achievement but no such permission will be allowed,” Khamenei told military commanders in Tehran Wednesday, in remarks broadcast on state TV. “No inspection of any military site or interview with nuclear scientists will be allowed.”


    Iran rejects access to military sites, scientists - The Washington Post

    Based on Iran's continuing insistence that sites be exempt from international inspection and international inspectors be barred from having access to Iranian nuclear scientists, it is increasingly clear that Iran wants a nuclear deal that would free it of international sanctions, but does not want a verifiable agreement. IMO, unless an agreement has a strong verification component, the P5+1 should not accept it. The latest position articulated by Ayatollah Khamenei would satisfy Iran's goals, but would not accommodate the international community's needs.

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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    From today's edition of The Washington Post:

    Iran’s supreme leader vowed Wednesday he will not allow international inspection of Iran’s military sites or access to Iranian scientists under any nuclear agreement with world powers...

    “The impudent and brazen enemy expects that we allow them talk to our scientists and researchers about a fundamental local achievement but no such permission will be allowed,” Khamenei told military commanders in Tehran Wednesday, in remarks broadcast on state TV. “No inspection of any military site or interview with nuclear scientists will be allowed.”


    Iran rejects access to military sites, scientists - The Washington Post

    Based on Iran's continuing insistence that sites be exempt from international inspection and international inspectors be barred from having access to Iranian nuclear scientists, it is increasingly clear that Iran wants a nuclear deal that would free it of international sanctions, but does not want a verifiable agreement. IMO, unless an agreement has a strong verification component, the P5+1 should not accept it. The latest position articulated by Ayatollah Khamenei would satisfy Iran's goals, but would not accommodate the international community's needs.
    i would bet that iran would permit such inspection of their military infrastructure if we and the other negotiating nations open our military facilities to the iranian scientists for inspection

    and if we are unwilling to do so, then is iran wrong in doing the same?
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i would bet that iran would permit such inspection of their military infrastructure if we and the other negotiating nations open our military facilities to the iranian scientists for inspection

    and if we are unwilling to do so, then is iran wrong in doing the same?
    There's a vital difference. The U.S. is a nuclear weapons state. Iran, on the other hand, claims not to seek such weapons, even as it has not been transparent with the IAEA in the past. If Iran wants an end to the sanctions regime, it will need to accept an agreement that permits robust verification. If Iran chooses to try to thwart the kind of verification that is needed in such an agreement, it can choose that alternative course, fully cognizant that such a choice has consequences e.g., a continuation of the kind of sanctions that it wishes to have lifted.

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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    There's a vital difference. The U.S. is a nuclear weapons state. Iran, on the other hand, claims not to seek such weapons, even as it has not been transparent with the IAEA in the past. If Iran wants an end to the sanctions regime, it will need to accept an agreement that permits robust verification. If Iran chooses to try to thwart the kind of verification that is needed in such an agreement, it can choose that alternative course, fully cognizant that such a choice has consequences e.g., a continuation of the kind of sanctions that it wishes to have lifted.
    If verification of nuclear facilities that are designed to ensure such facilities are for peaceful purposes, expand to include the nations defensive infrastructure, I can see this being problematic for Iran, and any other country for that matter.
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    If verification of nuclear facilities that are designed to ensure such facilities are for peaceful purposes, expand to include the nations defensive infrastructure, I can see this being problematic for Iran, and any other country for that matter.
    Under a nuclear agreement, the IAEA would not inspect installations at which there are no suspected or ongoing nuclear activities. Assured access would only give the IAEA the capability to respond to suspected or actual nuclear activity wherever it might occur and would reduce the risk that Iran could use its military installations to evade its obligations to refrain from military-related nuclear activities.

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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Under a nuclear agreement, the IAEA would not inspect installations at which there are no suspected or ongoing nuclear activities. Assured access would only give the IAEA the capability to respond to suspected or actual nuclear activity wherever it might occur and would reduce the risk that Iran could use its military installations to evade its obligations to refrain from military-related nuclear activities.
    Right, and the legitimacy of "suspected" (subjective as that could be) I can just see as being hugely problematic for Iran, or anybody for that matter. I don't know where this is going to end. I am perplexed by the Khomeini's alleged tough talk back at home that seems counterproductive to the cause, unless as one poster commented (even if sarcastically) it's for domestic audiences.
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i would bet that iran would permit such inspection of their military infrastructure if we and the other negotiating nations open our military facilities to the iranian scientists for inspection

    and if we are unwilling to do so, then is iran wrong in doing the same?
    Just a wild guess but perhaps nuclear weapons in the hands of crazed religious fanatics is not such a good thing?

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