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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    We all know what policy choice was undertaken (and the IAEA's having been correct). But just as many countries, including NATO allies such as France and Germany opposed the war, there is no compelling reason the U.S. or P5+1 must automatically ratify Iran's failure to meet its obligations to the IAEA. Indeed, lack of Iranian forthcoming provides insight into Iran's possible intentions and underscores the need for robust verification, which would include the ability of international inspectors to have access to any and all actual or suspected nuclear sites, including military installations, to ensure that Iran would comply with any commitments it makes in a nuclear agreement.
    This can and has been abused, and don't think that Iran's unaware of it. IMO, Iran has every reason to believe that Israel will not tolerate them having a nuclear program, regardless of what the P-5+1 and the IAEA concludes. Otherwise, I hope you realize that I have supported the P-5+1 all along, and would prefer the Obama approach over the McCain approach to Iran.
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    as i see it, iran is engaging in rational behavior
    its facilities have been the target of continuous attacks by those allied with one of the negotiating members
    it would be folly to reveal the nature of a nation's defensive capacities and to expect that information not to be potentially used to their own demise
    Exactly, and it seems, at present, that the negotiators understand that and are trying to work around it. Iran (or any country for that matter) has no defence if their entire defence department is opened to scrutiny. There is no way in hell that the US would open up its entire defensive infrastructure to satisfy a world body that they have indeed reduced nuclear weapons stockpiles as treatied, just as an example.
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    This can and has been abused, and don't think that Iran's unaware of it. IMO, Iran has every reason to believe that Israel will not tolerate them having a nuclear program, regardless of what the P-5+1 and the IAEA concludes. Otherwise, I hope you realize that I have supported the P-5+1 all along, and would prefer the Obama approach over the McCain approach to Iran.
    Israel's needs, based on a smaller margin for error, clearly differ from those of the P5+1. Reduced transparency and/or a hobbled verification regime can only magnify Israel's concerns.

    Like many, I also support the diplomatic route. At the same time, I believe a viable agreement needs to contain a very strong verification regime. That element, IMO, is more important than the exact timing of sanctions relief. Without such an agreement, much tougher sanctions might be the way to go.

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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    It would make no difference if anyone in the Pasdaran or elsewhere wanted Iran's atom bomb facilities to be inspected, if those facilities were nothing but ruins. That could be arranged without too much difficulty, and already should have been.

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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    We are, as well as the IAEA, which is used by the US when it's to our political advantage and dismissed when not. Sorry about the full box, it's empty now.
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Israel's needs, based on a smaller margin for error, clearly differ from those of the P5+1. Reduced transparency and/or a hobbled verification regime can only magnify Israel's concerns.

    Like many, I also support the diplomatic route. At the same time, I believe a viable agreement needs to contain a very strong verification regime. That element, IMO, is more important than the exact timing of sanctions relief. Without such an agreement, much tougher sanctions might be the way to go.
    Well distilled to that, there's not much space between us.
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What??
    Read the end of your post.
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

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    Read the end of your post.
    Right, MMC tried to PM me and my box was full. I still don't understand your point though. Shrug.
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    Re: Iran's powerful Guard rejects inspection of military sites

    From Reuters:

    The Czech Republic blocked an attempted purchase by Iran this year of a large shipment of sensitive technology useable for nuclear enrichment after false documentation raised suspicions, U.N. experts and Western sources said.

    Exclusive: Czechs stopped potential nuclear tech purchase by Iran: sources | Reuters

    This example highlights anew the need that international inspectors have unfettered access to any actual or suspected nuclear site in Iran. The false documentation undercuts Iranian trustworthiness. That the technology had nuclear enrichment implications can only raise concerns about the nature of Iran's nuclear activities.

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