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    Re: Chris Christie vows to 'crack down' on marijuana as president

    Economy, jobs, immigration, foreign policy...and he wants to throw down on marijuana?

    Christie is not a serious candidate.

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    Re: Chris Christie vows to 'crack down' on marijuana as president

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    The only context where this makes sense is if as President he would be obliged to enforce all laws.

    Yes, I laughed at that one too!
    He's going much further than being obliged to enforce the law. He's proving what many have been saying about Republican views on states rights. It's only a thing if they're on the right side of the issue.
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    Re: Chris Christie vows to 'crack down' on marijuana as president

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    He's going much further than being obliged to enforce the law. He's proving what many have been saying about Republican views on states rights. It's only a thing if they're on the right side of the issue.
    Pardon me, but you've seemed to have left some hack on my post.

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    Re: Chris Christie vows to 'crack down' on marijuana as president

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Pardon me, but you've seemed to have left some hack on my post.
    There is no hackery. Republicans have a support of 'states rights' that is spotty at best. They scream states rights when the discussion is gay marriage, but were all in favor of DOMA. They scream about big government interfering with state governments immigration laws (see: Arizona), but support making E-Verify mandatory. Yes, Republican support for 'a state's rights are highly dependent on the issue.
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    Re: Chris Christie vows to 'crack down' on marijuana as president

    I would hope that for most people a politician's stance on the legalization of Marijuana isn't important. It's not an issue that belongs in the Presidential election, just like abortion doesn't belong there.

    And while I completely disagree with Christie's stance, it wouldn't prohibit me from voting for him because of it.
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    Re: Chris Christie vows to 'crack down' on marijuana as president

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    There is no hackery. Republicans have a support of 'states rights' that is spotty at best. They scream states rights when the discussion is gay marriage, but were all in favor of DOMA. They scream about big government interfering with state governments immigration laws (see: Arizona), but support making E-Verify mandatory. Yes, Republican support for 'a state's rights are highly dependent on the issue.
    Covering your hack items with straw doesn't take the hackery away. Please stop.

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    Re: Chris Christie vows to 'crack down' on marijuana as president

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Covering your hack items with straw doesn't take the hackery away. Please stop.
    Denying reality seems to be your strength. When you can refute anything I've said with facts showing different, you're welcome to join the thread?
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    Re: Chris Christie vows to 'crack down' on marijuana as president

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Denying reality seems to be your strength. When you can refute anything I've said with facts showing different, you're welcome to join the thread?
    I did join the thread, It is your "Go Team" attitude towards politics I'm attempting to get unstuck from.

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    Re: Chris Christie vows to 'crack down' on marijuana as president

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    If this is the hill on which Christie wants to plant his flag, be my guest.
    What other hill does he have?

    NJ's credit rating has been downgraded eight times in the time he's been Governor, the most recent about a week and a half ago, so he has no fiscal credentials to run on.

    Gun laws in NJ are more draconian than virtually anywhere else in America and Christie is an avowed and proven gun grabber, so he's got nothing there.

    Illegal immigration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Christie
    "Being in this country without proper documentation is not a crime," Christie told more than 60 residents and town officials. "The whole phrase of 'illegal immigrant' connotes that the person, by just being here, is committing a crime."
    I guess maybe he could sort of hang his hat on gay marriage, he's at least been consistently opposed, though he's argued that it's a states rights issue.

    So yeah, if Christie wants marijuana to be the hill he dies on I guess it's as good as any issue and better than most.

    That said, he's so liberal, and in some cases so reasonable, that there is no way in hell he'd win a Republican primary.

    For all practical purposes this is a moot issue beyond how it effects the people of NJ.
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    Re: Chris Christie vows to 'crack down' on marijuana as president

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I did join the thread, It is your "Go Team" attitude towards politics I'm attempting to get unstuck from.
    There is no go-team attitude. It's acknowledging a fact. Republicans support states rights when it suits them, and dismiss it when it doesn't.

    As it stands:

    - Republicans don't have a states right argument for marijuana because the evangelical right is strongly against drugs. That is a fact.
    - They also didn't support gay marriage being a "states right" issue when every single one of them who voted on DOMA voted to pass it.
    - They also support passing federal government bans on abortion, ignoring the many states in which there are predominately pro-choice stances.

    The biggest proof that Republicans are flaky when it comes to states is the retelling that Southern Republicans have of the Civil War. It's a retelling that paints their new understanding of states rights as an institution that needed to be protected. As opposed to the fact that the institution being protected was slavery. It also purposely ignores that Northern states were exercising their states right to try and influence the federal government. Why? Because it's much easier to get the Southern vote if you ignore the fact that the 'state right' in question was the right to have slavery.

    Again, these are all well accepted facts. Acknowledging them is not a 'Go-Team Attitude'. However, your attitude makes you look like you don't have much to counter with.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 04-20-15 at 12:01 PM.
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