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    Re: Putin warns Israel against selling arms to Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Putin warns Israel against selling arms to Ukraine

    Well now. Vlad has had no qualms about supplying lethal arms to the pro-Russia rebels in eastern Ukraine which has resulted in well over 6,000 dead and over 1,000,000 displaced.

    Considering also that Putin is beginning to supply Israel arch-foe Iran with high-tech weapons systems ... the pinnacle of audacity and hypocrisy.
    I say the Jewish State has become over accustomed to fighting weak and powerless people so that they are in for one BIG surprise when they mess with Russia and Russia's powerful President Putin.

    Stealing Palestinian land and murdering the people of Palestine using American arms has made the Jewish State into an immoral fool, and I have full confidence in Russia setting things rightfully with them.
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    Re: Putin warns Israel against selling arms to Ukraine

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    Russia already did. Crimea has been Ukrainian land for 60 years.
    I don't know whether to laugh or to cry...

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    Re: Putin warns Israel against selling arms to Ukraine

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    Ok. You aren't a serious poster.
    Serious enough that you don't like what I say.

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    Re: Putin warns Israel against selling arms to Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Only that you're drawing a comparison here between committing a preemptive strike against the no.1 sponsor of terrorism on the planet that directly manages proxy terror organizations that carry massacres throughout the planet and aspires to gain nuclear weapons while calling for the destruction of other nations, and between committing an act of aggression against what... ****ing Denmark?

    Right.



    Defend themselves how, by massacring innocents around the globe in the name of Shia Islam through proxy organizations?
    Perhaps by threatening to annihilate other nations?
    And how exactly is the murder of innocents in the name of a sect of Islam and its geopolitical goals not terrorism, do elaborate on that since you claim that the Iranian government are not engaging in terrorism.



    If you fail to recognize the irony in Putin asking Israel not to arm Ukraine when he arms Syria, Iran, and pretty much every single individual with an ill intention out there, then that's entirely your problem.
    I would call it hypocrisy instead of irony, whatever.

    Yes, Russia is in the arms business too, I know that already. So is Israel and so are we and so are South Africa and many of the NATO countries.

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    Re: Putin warns Israel against selling arms to Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    The "it's always the West's fault" mantra is getting tiring.
    It's not the West's fault and not the US's fault that the Iranian people have decided to perform an Islamic revolution.
    It was the direct result of the path the Iranian society, like many other Muslim societies on this planet, had taken.
    If anything the actions of the US had delayed that.

    Regardless you're not getting the point here. Your refusal to recognize that Iran is responsible for countless of acts of terror against Western and non-Western targets alike is absurd.
    Hezbollah is one of the largest, most brutal terror organizations out there and it answers directly to the Iranian regime. Iran manages countless of other terror proxies in Iraq, Lebanon, Syria and Yemen. This is the reality that you choose to ignore. Good luck with that.
    It is getting old, I agree, but we need to stop messing with their governments. Until that happens and we actually admit we messed up over in that region for well over 60 years. We are never going to be rid of the extremists we helped create.

    We choose to oust the Shah of Iran and allowed radicals to come to power. The fact you think we don't bear responsibility for what has happened over there is appalling. It shows a lack of knowledge of history and really once you realize all of the mistakes we made you'll accept that our only way to fix the problem is to remove ourselves from the situation.
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    Re: Putin warns Israel against selling arms to Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Cusick View Post
    I say the Jewish State has become over accustomed to fighting weak and powerless people so that they are in for one BIG surprise when they mess with Russia and Russia's powerful President Putin.

    Stealing Palestinian land and murdering the people of Palestine using American arms has made the Jewish State into an immoral fool, and I have full confidence in Russia setting things rightfully with them.
    I think its partly the US's fault, we have been enabling Isreal far too much and our Congressmen openly siding with them in the Iran nuclear talks just shows how much we are biased.

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    Re: Putin warns Israel against selling arms to Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    It is getting old, I agree, but we need to stop messing with their governments. Until that happens and we actually admit we messed up over in that region for well over 60 years. We are never going to be rid of the extremists we helped create.
    How did the US help create the Islamic revolution, pray tell.

    We choose to oust the Shah of Iran and allowed radicals to come to power. The fact you think we don't bear responsibility for what has happened over there is appalling.
    What on Earth are you talking about? The US didn't choose to oust the Shah, the Shah was a US imposed administration and the US did not want to see it gone, but the Islamic revolution led by Khomeinei and the protests were going to see the Shah ousted and Khomeinei's regime installed regardless of whether the US had decided to abandon it or not.

    It shows a lack of knowledge of history and really once you realize all of the mistakes we made you'll accept that our only way to fix the problem is to remove ourselves from the situation.
    It's extremely absurd to believe that without an American involvement the region would have been rid of radical Islamists.
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    Re: Putin warns Israel against selling arms to Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    I would call it hypocrisy instead of irony, whatever.

    Yes, Russia is in the arms business too, I know that already. So is Israel and so are we and so are South Africa and many of the NATO countries.
    Yes and the very merit of this thread is this Russian hypocrisy that you've mentioned, so I don't see what's your point here.
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    Re: Putin warns Israel against selling arms to Ukraine

    Fury in Russia as Israel declines to send high-level official to WWII commemoration

    Israel has now declined to send any high level official to Moscow for Russia's May 9 extravaganza celebrating the 70th anniversary of the defeat of the WWII Nazi regime. Attendance will be limited solely to Israel's ambassador to Russia. Many Western nations have also declined to send a high level dignitary to Moscow in protest of Russia's illegal annexation of Crimea and supporting pro-Russia rebels in eastern Ukraine with troops, arms, and munitions.

    Israel had remained neutral over Crimea and Ukraine partly due to its large ethnic-Russian Jewish community. But now that Putin has chosen to ship weapons to Iran, Israel's relationship with Russia is deteriorating.


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    Re: Putin warns Israel against selling arms to Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That's too bad that Iranian defense is seen as a complication for Israel. It seems to me that folk are complaining about Russian opposition to NATO defense systems.
    That's too bad that Ukrainian defense is seen as a complication for Russia.

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