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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Anyone hunting elephants for ivory in this day and age deserves everything bad that happens to them. No sympathy here.
    I'm not 100% sure they were illegally poaching.
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'm not 100% sure they were illegally poaching.
    Stepping back from the poaching aspect of this then. I don't really get this. Why would anyone proactively want to kill an elephant or a giraffe ?

    'Canned hunting': the lions bred for slaughter | Environment | The Guardian

    On TV recently I saw one rich American hunter in South Africa having a gazelle staked out between two trees so it couldn't escape, in order to get his 11 year old daughter to shoot it. He then got annoyed with her when she got upset about being forced to do it ! He claimed he was teaching her to hunt ! A whole sick market has sprung up to cater for some very disturbed individuals in my view.
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Stepping back from the poaching aspect of this then. I don't really get this. Why would anyone proactively want to kill an elephant or a giraffe ?

    'Canned hunting': the lions bred for slaughter | Environment | The Guardian

    On TV recently I saw one rich American hunter in South Africa having a gazelle staked out between two trees so it couldn't escape, in order to get his 11 year old daughter to shoot it. He then got annoyed with her when she got upset about being forced to do it ! He claimed he was teaching her to hunt ! A whole sick market has sprung up to cater for some very disturbed individuals in my view.
    People do all sorts of things for all sorts of reasons. Perhaps some like to hunt, perhaps others want bragging rights to something. I'm sure there are things you like to do that I wouldn't really get either. It's not to say you shouldn't be allowed to do it though, just that different people have different ideals and desires. If it's legal, then that's really what matters most.

    I'm not sure this was an illegal hunt, it sounds like everything was very much in line with law. It's sad that a man died, though the risks were known, but it's not a good thing to celebrate the deaths of humans, even if one is not sympathetic to actions taken by the individual while alive.
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    People do all sorts of things for all sorts of reasons. Perhaps some like to hunt, perhaps others want bragging rights to something. I'm sure there are things you like to do that I wouldn't really get either. It's not to say you shouldn't be allowed to do it though, just that different people have different ideals and desires. If it's legal, then that's really what matters most.
    Hunting for food (when its necessary to do so for survival) I can understand its hunting for sport I find morally repugnant

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Hunting for food (when its necessary to do so for survival) I can understand. Hunting for sport I find morally questionable
    And you can, it's fine. But if this was a legal hunt, then it was a legal hunt. And regardless, cheering the death of humans is something I find morally questionable, or repulsive. But c'est la vie.
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And you can, it's fine. But if this was a legal hunt, then it was a legal hunt. And regardless, cheering the death of humans is something I find morally questionable, or repulsive. But c'est la vie.
    The humans chose to be a part of this the animals didn't

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Stepping back from the poaching aspect of this then. I don't really get this. Why would anyone proactively want to kill an elephant or a giraffe ?

    'Canned hunting': the lions bred for slaughter | Environment | The Guardian

    On TV recently I saw one rich American hunter in South Africa having a gazelle staked out between two trees so it couldn't escape, in order to get his 11 year old daughter to shoot it. He then got annoyed with her when she got upset about being forced to do it ! He claimed he was teaching her to hunt ! A whole sick market has sprung up to cater for some very disturbed individuals in my view.
    Men (or women) who participate in canned hunts, anywhere, including here in the US (big in TX) are the biggest pussies on the planet.
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    People do all sorts of things for all sorts of reasons. Perhaps some like to hunt, perhaps others want bragging rights to something. I'm sure there are things you like to do that I wouldn't really get either. It's not to say you shouldn't be allowed to do it though, just that different people have different ideals and desires. If it's legal, then that's really what matters most.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    The humans chose to be a part of this the animals didn't
    That changes nothing I said.
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    It's Big Game Hunting, people, and Big Game Hunting in freaking Africa at that. Of course it's dangerous.

    That's the whole point.

    It really just goes to show that these animals aren't exactly the defenseless cuddle bunnies so many of the "bleeding heart" brigade like to paint them as. They actually manage to kill quite a few hunters every year.

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