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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Yes and the animals I ate were not killed for fun

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    Yes they were... unless you've never enjoyed a good steak dinner?


    It was just one step removed, allowing you to pretend you're not responsible.

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Again, you focus on the killing. The kill is the culmination of the hunt, it is not the whole.

    But clearly you have no interest in seeing that.
    So do you concede its ultimately about the killing given you could do everything else involved in hunting and yet shoot with a camera as an alternative 'culmination' ?

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    So do you concede its ultimately about the killing given you could do everything else involved in hunting and yet shoot with a camera as an alternative 'culmination' ?

    Nope. I concede nothing; I assert it is the whole experience and not any one part of the experience.

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    So they are out there killing elephants to boost their egos and now they are upset when an elephant killed one of them?
    I hope other barbarians like that will think twice before trying to kill an innocent animal.
    You hunt and kill for food it you have to, not because you think you want to have some fun.
    What if the meat is used to feed poor tribes people?
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Nope. I concede nothing; I assert it is the whole experience and not any one part of the experience.
    Some would call that a dodge

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Some would call that a dodge

    Other, better informed persons who have actually done it, would call it the truth.

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    And the fact that a child killing such animals for fun doesn't bother you at all speaks volumes.
    Almost as much as you wishing humans were dead because they hunt.
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    As you can see from the blood on the muzzle of her teen kill it wasn't tranquilized . In 1900 there were estimated to be around half a million Rhinos of all species roaming Africa. There are now some 29,000 left yet you guys see nothing wrong with killing some more for fun. I don't buy this conservationist BS either. If she wants to save animals she can be a vet or a game warden rather than a grinning thrill seeker killing for 'sport' . Live animals attract vastly more money into these regions via tourism than dead ones so the economic argument doesn't wash either
    Again.. the disconnect...

    Again I would want to know the particulars around the hunt. For one.. part of conservation is the use of hunting as part of scientific management practices. It is a way to control genetics, control overpopulation and reduce human animal conflicts that can lead to drastic problems for the animals.

    Two.. hunting brings in more dollars than non hunting tourism and it has a significantly less impact on the environment.

    There is much evidence to suggest that hunting is less destructive than other nonconsumptive forms of ecotourism, such as photographic tourism.23 Hunters have less impact on the environment than photographic tourists as they require fewer local amenities and infrastructure, therefore reducing habitat degradation.24 The income generated from the hunting industry far exceeds that generated from other forms of ecotourism and is derived from fewer tourists, reducing their ecological impact while providing increased revenue for conservation initiatives.25
    23. W. I. Morrill, “The Tourist Safari Hunter's Role in Conservation,” in Living With Wildlife—Wildlife Resource Management With Local Participation in Africa, ed. A. Kiss (Washington, DC: World Bank, 1993) Appendix II.
    24. S. Gössling, “Tourism: A Sustainable Development Option,” Environmental Conservation, 27 (2000): 223–24.
    25. D. Lewis and P. Alpert, “Trophy Hunting and Wildlife Conservation in Zambia,” Conservation Biology, 11 (1997): 59–68.

    Sorry but facts are facts...

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    So, flogger... have you prepared an answer for why it is okay for others to kill animals FOR you, so that you can have fun and enjoy a nice steak dinner with your mates...


    ... but it is someone wrong when others kill animals themselves (even when the animals are eaten)?

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Other, better informed persons who have actually done it, would call it the truth.
    I'll try again .....

    Why would this African hunt 'culmination' you speak of have to be a kill rather than a photo or perhaps even a boresighted laser shot proving your skill ?

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