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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Killing endangered African animals for trophies isn't a 'sport' that many would recognise as morally legitimate



    Then leave them alone



    And to a 13 year old too. Which perhaps says a lot more about the government that clearly issued them for profit


    why do you keep fibbing? you make the specious claim they are endangered

    and that assumes you know more about the situation than the AUTHORITIES in the country in question

    what exactly do you have in credentials that allows you to countermand the views of people who actually are charged with the administration of game laws,.

    and your silly rant about hunter's ages is worthless

    we get the idea you don't like hunting

    we already know you want to ban Americans from owning guns

    we just don't find your arguments to have any merit

    and your standing to whine about other nations is rather thin
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Your version of what is right is worthless to me. I have no use for the Bambists mentality. I say more power to hunters who engage in hunting legally. And if it upsets lefties-so much better. The constantly offended crowd makes me laugh
    So I'm a Lefty now too Have you any other smears or labels in your arsenal ?

    If something is wrong I will call it out as such even if it offends your morally ambiguous sensibilities on this issue.

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    It turns out that I made the mistake in posting my first Rhino picture. My bad

    This is in fact the one she shot dead and was her first kill .... at the age of 13 !!!

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    If anything this makes it even worse. Why would any child want to do this ?
    Again.. please provide a link to the story behind this.

    However, Why would a child want to do this? Because hunting is an awesome lifestyle.. and if it was a rhino that she killed.. (which I again doubt.. but possible that many years ago).. it was likely done legally
    And probably as a result of a conservation reason... for example.. it may have been a hunt to reduce overpopulation.. etc.

    Gee.. why would someone want to do this? That's easy... except hard to understand from someone like yourself that has no understanding what hunting is about , nor desires to have any understanding what hunting is about.
    You think its all about killing. Which I have offered objective proof that its not. Not only because the success rate is so abysmally low... but also because hunters have a code of ethics that almost all hunters adhere to when it comes to fair chase.. and what animals can be killed. Sometimes that even runs counter to science at times. In NY for example.. game biologists wanted to take more does, and decrease the population since it was approaching dangerous levels. It was very hard to convince many hunters that taking a doe was acceptable. That's because hunters would rather forego killing an animal rather than potentially harm the population of deer.
    If killing was the only thing about hunting.. then hunters would have rejoiced.. but the reality is that feared taking too many does and hurting the population.
    That's a fact.

    So.. back to why a child would want to do this. Well.. I will speak from experience since my children just entered the age (10) where they can hunt big game. A lot of it is because of the memories and time spent with me. To prepare for my sons first big game hunt.. we spent many a day.. working on how to be quiet, how to use the wind to stalk, how to use the topography of the land to your best advantage. We spent time hiking with packs to get used to climbing hills, They spent time with me learning knife skills so that they can properly take care of the animal if they get one. And of course.. that's something that's a right of passage. If you kill it.. you clean it.
    THEN there is the time spent learning the weapon.. learning how to make a clean kill with one shot. Many a day spent on the range practicing and getting to know their equipment and their limitations.

    And then that culminates in the hunt. Because of the differing states I hunt in and times.. the first big game hunt for my youngest was a bull elk hunt. We hunted hard for elk. Putting in day after day.. three day weekends for a month and a half. 7 to 10 miles a day.. in some of the toughest terrain that the rocky mountains have to offer. And not one complaint from my youngest. We saw tons of animals.. just no elk. We saw wolves, coyotes, so many different species of birds, fox, we saw mink.., and some deer a long way off. And the most beautiful views.. that most people will never ever see. And on the last day of the season.. Rain and snow pouring down on us.. abut 6 miles from the truck.. we sneak into a valley and find a small group of elk. They get nervous and stand up from their beds.. I see a spike..and try to get my son on him when a beautiful 6 point bull stands up and tilts his head back and scratched his butt with his antlers. They ended up moving off without a shot. I asked my son why he never got the rifle off his shoulder and he said "Dad it was so exciting that I forgot I had a rifle!"..

    Now.. I am sure you don't understand that experience.. and how it affects the relationship of me and my sons.... and the memories that they will have that will be better than ANY television show they watch, or ball game they go to, or any video game they will play. Not to mention the all the practical life experiences they learn. Like perseverance, patience and responsibility.

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    Again.. please provide a link to the story behind this.
    You've already been linked it and her quoted admission that it was her first kill

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Incidentally I've done a little digging.


    The dead Rhino in the pic is most likely a Southern White Rhino, which is not listed as "Endangered".

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I don't get why you're hung up on the girl being 13.
    Because it goes against the anti hunting view that the only people that would hunt are " Neanderthal, "Marlboro Men"....

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    So I'm a Lefty now too Have you any other smears or labels in your arsenal ?

    If something is wrong I will call it out as such even if it offends your morally ambiguous sensibilities on this issue.
    Nothing you posts offends me. I am just laughing at Brits who think they know more about game environments in foreign countries than the officials charged with dealing with game issues in those countries
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    Because it goes against the anti hunting view that the only people that would hunt are " Neanderthal, "Marlboro Men"....
    It all boils down to the fact that you think killing for fun is right and I think that is wrong on the most basic and fundamental of levels. Clearly we are never going to bridge that morality gap

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    It all boils down to the fact that you think killing for fun is right and I think that is wrong on the most basic and fundamental of levels. Clearly we are never going to bridge that morality gap

    Any more than you have the capacity to realize that the killing part is just one component of the whole and far from the primary "fun" of it.

    We've already established that you know not whereof you speak. You don't understand hunting's role in conservation; you apparently didn't know that there are Rhino species NOT on the Endangered list...


    ... and you still haven't explained why the fact of it being a 13yo girl seems to bother you more than anything.

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    ... and you still haven't explained why the fact of it being a 13yo girl seems to bother you more than anything.
    And the fact that a child killing such animals for fun doesn't bother you at all speaks volumes.

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