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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    In that five hour time span the elephant probably gave the hunter every possible opportunity to quit tracking him that he could think of (elephants are known to be quite intelligent).

    Once he ran out of ideas, he was fighting for his life. It seems that the professional hunter was unable to stalk his prey without notice. Too bad, so sad.
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
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    I hope the elephant is doing well.
    I'm not the least bit sorry for him.
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The elephant did what it needed to survive. Can't feel sorry for the hunter.
    If a hunter who had a history of utilizing his prey for dinner, such as most elk hunters, (and I was nearly trampled by elk one very early morning not quite light, and I sort of walked upon them as I was trying to find a place to pee) well then perhaps and even likely I'd feel sorry for the hunter. But big game hunters, that just kill for the sake of it. No sympathy. Cheers to the elephant. I hope they don't kill it as it's not a man hunter, it wasn't hunting man, it was defending itself.
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Elephants have very long memories so most have seen relatives killed by men so I expect that a lot of them are willing to kill men.

    I would love to have a giant elephant tusk but I wouldn't kill an elephant to get one. I would rather buy an elephant and wait for it to die of old age but they live longer than I have left.

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    I can never feel sorry for anyone who is killed by an animal if they are attempting to kill the animal, or the animal's family.
    I am assuming then that you are a strict vegetarian and that you never wear any furs or leather?
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Few people understand how big-game hunts work. That hunter probably paid well over $50,000 and possibly over $100,00 for the "hunt" and it was arranged because the herd was going to be thinned to avoid starvation. The money pays for the operation preserve, which usually is privately owned land. The alternative is to turn the land into farmland and eliminate the natural wildlife.

    There are big game hunters - if can call it hunting - on waiting lists to "hunt" big game. When the number becomes too high for a particular species on the particular private preserve, and offer is made to buy the hunt of the specific animal. They tend to pick males because they consume a lot of food and space, but are not essential to maintaining the herd as that is the females.

    Lower cost animals might be hippos, water buffalo and giraffes, though will still cost tens of thousands of dollars each for the right to shoot it. The goal of the hunter isn't the hunt, but the taxidermy afterwards for his home and as his vacation trip. End big game contract hunting and it would devastate certain species and the preserves would be shut down and converted to cleared farmland. The preserve owners also protect their land against poachers, which would not happen without the hunting fees income.

    Even if not, the result would be starvation due to excessive population over grazing.

    The elephant in all certainly has been killed as that likely was the goal in the first place.

    You, too, can hunt tigers, lions, elephants etc - provided that you have a few hundred thousand dollars to spare. In doing so you are financing living space and protection for that species that otherwise wouldn't exist. The story doesn't tell that reality.

    As soon as America converts its prairies back to natural prairies then you all have a right to fuss about what other countries do in relation to their large non-livestock animals. It tends to be city people who complain, when they personally are living themselves in a setting 100% adverse to animals. As it human nature, they want to complain about others for things they absolutely do not do themselves.

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I am assuming then that you are a strict vegetarian and that you never wear any furs or leather?
    That might be so for the OPer. If I remember correctly, in his opinion killing fire ants, mosquitoes, rats and cockroaches is wrong too.

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    That might be so for the OPer. If I remember correctly, in his opinion killing fire ants, mosquitoes, rats and cockroaches is wrong too.
    What about dust mites?
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Commercial hunting preserves in Africa (and elsewhere including the USA) are doing more to keep species from extinction than are all animal rights groups as all they do is bitch. The privately owned preserves actually maintain the land and the species. This is another example of it being profit thru free enterprise doing far more good than the so-called do-gooders.

    Africans, just like Americans and Europeans and everyone else, are not going to agree to starve to death to keep their land natural. Large species that are not livestock are doomed everywhere UNLESS there is an economic motive to save them. It is zoos and for-profit preserves that have the best chance of preventing further extinctions. Sending $100 to an animal rights group won't make and maintain a 100,000 acre wildlife preserve. Selling hunting rights for herd excess at $25,000 to $100,000 a shot does.

    That guy gave at least $50,000 and probably much more to save elephants in the wild. What have YOU done to save elephants in the wild? Talk and posting online is nothing.
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

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