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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Anyone hunting elephants for ivory in this day and age deserves everything bad that happens to them. No sympathy here.
    Why? why do they deserve death?

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Stepping back from the poaching aspect of this then. I don't really get this. Why would anyone proactively want to kill an elephant or a giraffe ?

    'Canned hunting': the lions bred for slaughter | Environment | The Guardian

    On TV recently I saw one rich American hunter in South Africa having a gazelle staked out between two trees so it couldn't escape, in order to get his 11 year old daughter to shoot it. He then got annoyed with her when she got upset about being forced to do it ! He claimed he was teaching her to hunt ! A whole sick market has sprung up to cater for some very disturbed individuals in my view.
    Just to point out that what you described was most likely completely illegal.. and at the very least completely unethical and you would be hard pressed to find any hunting organization that would support the above and would most likely be adamantly against it.

    AS far as why hunt an elephant or giraffe? I know for myself an elephant would be an extreme thrill... one that takes skill, patience, endurance, more than a bit of luck and a very good dose of danger. AND my participation in hunting is proven to improve elephant numbers and herd health, improve animal habitat..and overall, be better for the environment.

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I haven't eaten any elephant or giraffe lately nor have I used their skins. I seriously doubt that our deceased hunter was just about to either
    Actually he likely would have.. as would the whole community in the area he was hunting.

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Yes we can see just how conservationally minded they obviously are by posing and grinning in pictures like this one

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    Killing a harmless graceful animal like this at close range with a high powered rifle must make her so proud
    Yep... it probably makes her proud. I know I would be. And yes.. she is very conservation minded.

    Its attitudes like yours that have led in part to the extinction and continued extinction of animals all over the planet.

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I am not saying poachers got to raise a herd of elephants like they do cows for their Ivory(I am surprised no one has done that yet).Fishermen don't raise fish for fishing, nor do deer hunters raise deer for hunting.All I am saying is that if they are going after the ivory it makes more sense to tranquilize the elephant and take it's tusks instead of killing the animal.Because if the animal is dead it's tusks do not grow back nor does the animal reproduce. Which is why I said that what the poachers do is akin to chopping down the whole fruit tree for it's fruit.
    From the poachers side.. its about a few things... first of all... they don;t care.. its about money.. and they get money not only from the tusks.. but from skins. from the penis etc. (Asian medicine and all).

    Plus.. many of the poachers are often local farmers that have absolutely no lover for elephants.. that eat their crops.. bust their fences, flatten houses, and ruin water supplies. \

    That's why sport hunting has been so helpful in curbing local poaching and in improving elephant herds. With sport hunting, now the animal has a value to the local farmer. Now they have tourism dollars, meat, so on and so forth.. that makes the elephant valuable instead of simply a nuisance.

    If the world community was smart.. they would allow ivory taken from licensed kills to be sold.. undercutting the black market and reducing the money from poaching. but emotions and stupidity are in great supply versus common sense..

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    Yep... it probably makes her proud. I know I would be. And yes.. she is very conservation minded.

    Its attitudes like yours that have led in part to the extinction and continued extinction of animals all over the planet.
    that's the worst part about it... those whom object are the very ones whose idea of banning such hunting leads to decreased survivability of herds... and they can't for the life of them understand why that is.

    it's not a very good idea to replace science with personal emotions..

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    The point is though. Why would you want to for 'fun' ?
    People die needlessly every year climbing mountains. We know it can be done, why do it?
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    People die needlessly every year climbing mountains. We know it can be done, why do it?
    Because they endanger nothing but themselves. If stupid people want to voluntarily endanger themselves who am I to argue

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    that's the worst part about it... those whom object are the very ones whose idea of banning such hunting leads to decreased survivability of herds... and they can't for the life of them understand why that is.

    it's not a very good idea to replace science with personal emotions..
    This is nothing to do with the love of hunting or conservation and everything to do with a love of killing. Having seen elephants and giraffes in the wild in Kenya there is no hunting involved in finding them because they are large easy to find and dont tend to run away

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    Just to point out that what you described was most likely completely illegal.. and at the very least completely unethical and you would be hard pressed to find any hunting organization that would support the above and would most likely be adamantly against it.
    No it was quite legal in South Africa and broadcast on the BBC on the Louis Theroux show if memory serves

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