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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

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    Hunting endangered species.
    if the hunter is a licensed professional, the country where he is licensed has approved hunting that species.
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Game Hunter Ian Gibson Trampled To Death By Elephant
    I hope the elephant is doing well.
    The fact that you celebrate the death of a human over an animal, no matter the circumstances, shows a distinct lack of intelligence regarding the order of things in the universe.
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's really stupid. Professional hunters in AFrica are the front line defense against the senseless poaching that is really causing animal loss. Professional hunters, who pay expensive licensing fees and expensive trophy fees are not the problem. Poaching. But the Bambist twits want to whine about professional hunters and their LICENSED clients because they don't understand how things work over there.

    legitimate hunters have always been conservationists.
    Yes we can see just how conservationally minded they obviously are by posing and grinning in pictures like this one

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    Killing a harmless graceful animal like this at close range with a high powered rifle must make her so proud

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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    After careful consideration, I have concluded that it is ethically OK to kill a hunter whose activities threaten the continuing existence of an endangered species, although I support fair trials whenever that is a viable alternative.
    and I would support those who would kill anti hunting extremists who murder hunters because they are Bambists who don't understand that licensed-by definition-are not endangering any such species. Poachers, on the other hand, are usually scum. But poachers and Bambists are both in the same category as far as I am concerned

    one cares nothing about the continued existence of a sustainable number of a given game animal and the other tend to be marxist idiots who hate guns, hate hunters and really don't care about animals (since they never learned enough about animals to understand reality)
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Yes we can see just how conservationally minded they obviously are by posing and grinning in pictures like this one

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    She must be so proud
    she should be-looks like she made an accurate shot that harvested the animal quickly

    far left types hate hunters mainly because hunters don't tend to have much use for marxist, progressive or socialist ideals


    so don't pretend your attacks on hunters is based for a real love of animals. Its based on your view that hunters are disgusted by socialism and collectivism
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    she should be-looks like she made an accurate shot that harvested the animal quickly
    What a truly sick perspective on trophy hunting

    far left types hate hunters mainly because hunters don't tend to have much use for marxist, progressive or socialist ideals
    I am most certainly none of the above

    so don't pretend your attacks on hunters is based for a real love of animals. Its based on your view that hunters are disgusted by socialism and collectivism
    Having actually been on safari in Tsavo national Park ,Kenya the last thing in the world I would want to do is kill one of these majestic creatures and then be photographed sitting and proudly smiling next to it.
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Hunting to prevent a wild animal from hurting people or being a trouble animal that must be eliminated is one thing, hunting big game for ivory or pleasure is something that I disapprove of and if this guy was doing that and got killed in the process then tough luck for him.
    There is a distinct possibility that the elephant owes its existance to managed big game hunting. Several African countries protect their herds very well and now there are more elephants locally than the range can support. They are now eating crops.

    Well thought out big game hunting not only allows the local elephant herds to be managed, but as big game hunts are very expensive permit wise and involve alot of "over the top" luxury accomodations, they bring alot of money into the local economy. As another poster mentioned, the people in the area then see the animals as a renewable recesource that they need to protect- instead of viewing them as 10 ton pests.

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Killing a harmless graceful animal like this at close range with a high powered rifle must make her so proud
    The local guides, the local schools, and the local clinic are probably also proud that they have a renewable natural recourse that people want to pay big money to harvest (Ok, to shoot).

    Modern Big Game outfitters not only practice responsible herd management, but they regularly involve the local people in all aspects of the industry and also make donations to local schoools, clinics etc. According to a business friend that I knew 12 years ago, permits to hunt "Big Five" type game run upto $35,000 dollars. Predator permits were even more. Needless to say, the prices are even higher today- which is more incentive for local people to protect their (not PETA's) renewable natural recesources.
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    What a truly sick perspective on trophy hunting



    I am most certainly none of the above



    Having actually been on safari in Tsavo national Park ,Kenya the last thing in the world I would want to do is kill one of these majestic creatures and then be photographed sitting and proudly smiling next to it.
    I have no use for your Bambist attitudes on hunting. I couldn't care less if you think its sick. The governments that license people like that lady hunter have made a determination that such activity works for the benefit of the citizenry of that country and buttinskis from other countries who have no clue don't matter to them

    Its time people like you stop pretending that your stilted and silly version of what is morality should be imposed on more clear thinking and realistic individuals and governments
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    Just an aside...

    Do understand the conditions that domesticated elephants usually face? I think that's the irony of your post. Hunting a wild animal in a fair chase hunt.. where the animal.. as demonstrated, has a chance. And that animal has lived his life till a ripe old age out in the wild... and then he falls to a clean kill from a hunters bullet?

    That's way more human than the conditions that domesticated elephants face.
    I am not saying poachers got to raise a herd of elephants like they do cows for their Ivory(I am surprised no one has done that yet).Fishermen don't raise fish for fishing, nor do deer hunters raise deer for hunting.All I am saying is that if they are going after the ivory it makes more sense to tranquilize the elephant and take it's tusks instead of killing the animal.Because if the animal is dead it's tusks do not grow back nor does the animal reproduce. Which is why I said that what the poachers do is akin to chopping down the whole fruit tree for it's fruit.
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    Re: Game Hunter Trampled To Death By Elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    There is a distinct possibility that the elephant owes its existance to managed big game hunting. Several African countries protect their herds very well and now there are more elephants locally than the range can supporta nd they are now eating crops.

    Well thought out big game hunting not only allows the local elephant herds to be managed, but as big game hunts are very expensive permit wise and involve alot of "over the top" luxury accomodations, they bring alot of money into the local economy. As another poster mentioned, the people in the area then see the animals as a renewable recesource that they need to protect- instead of viewing them as 10 ton pests.
    excellent point. the revenue derived from big game hunters is why countries such as Botswana and Namibia have made serious efforts to protect game animals from poachers and farmers (who often kill animals like Elephants for knocking down cattle fences etc or killing lions and leopards for taking livestock)
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