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    Re: Florida Governor to Sue Obama Administration Over Medicaid Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Which equates too how much, exactly, for the state and from where is the money supposed to come? Actually, don't answer the second part unless your answer is something other than 'the rich.'
    the 2% is only for new qualifiers. it is much worse than 2%, and it doesn't cover the costs of the existing people on it.

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    Re: Florida Governor to Sue Obama Administration Over Medicaid Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Which equates too how much, exactly, for the state and from where is the money supposed to come? Actually, don't answer the second part unless your answer is something other than 'the rich.'
    Sales tax, reshuffling of funds, property tax, sin tax. Dont have to create an income tax to cover it. I mean ****, Rick Scott is prancing around touting his "budget surplus"...


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    Re: Florida Governor to Sue Obama Administration Over Medicaid Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    that is what they say but the devil is in the detail and when you look at the details well the deal doesn't become all that great anymore.
    no they get hit with more than 2% of the costs, but then again you only believe what you are told.
    Alright.. Care to back up your claim?


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    Re: Florida Governor to Sue Obama Administration Over Medicaid Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    The best part about this is that Florida would receive more aid if they simply expanded Medicaid.. But guess what Governor Scott, we live in a system of government called federalism, and in that system the federal government can withhold/cut funds from the lower levels of government if they see the need. Looks like you are on the wrong side of that coin..
    that has nothing to do with federalism.

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    Re: Florida Governor to Sue Obama Administration Over Medicaid Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    that has nothing to do with federalism.
    Uhh yes it does.


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    Re: Florida Governor to Sue Obama Administration Over Medicaid Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Uhh yes it does.
    really??....expalin federalism...and tell where money comes into play.

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    Re: Florida Governor to Sue Obama Administration Over Medicaid Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Alright.. Care to back up your claim?
    while the Medicaid expansion looks good on paper and was parroted as that it really isn't a great deal for states.

    ol states only have to pay a max of 10%. that is of the new people that meet the requirements.
    if a person signs up for Medicaid and they would have qualified for the old system then they get put under the old system and the state still has to pay the old rate.

    so if you have 1m people sign up and 50+% of them would have qualified under the old Medicaid system that is a massive expense to the state.
    the states that expanded Medicaid are running into this very issue. they are seeing large enrollments of people and quite a few of them qualify under the
    old system which is not covered by federal dollars.

    also the whole 10% thing doesn't cover old enrollee's just new ones.
    overall it was a horrible deal for states. yet it was passed off as this great thing just another lie from the Obama administration.

    just another massive transfer of wealth.

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    Re: Florida Governor to Sue Obama Administration Over Medicaid Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    really??....expalin federalism...and tell where money comes into play.
    Do you seriously not understand how state and federal programs work with each other? Do you really need to go back to middle school government class? You cant be this dull..


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    Re: Florida Governor to Sue Obama Administration Over Medicaid Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Do you seriously not understand how state and federal programs work with each other? Do you really need to go back to middle school government class? You cant be this dull..
    you have not a clue of what you are talking about, not a clue......explain federalism.....this is the second time i have asked.

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    Re: Florida Governor to Sue Obama Administration Over Medicaid Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Sales tax, reshuffling of funds, property tax, sin tax. Dont have to create an income tax to cover it. I mean ****, Rick Scott is prancing around touting his "budget surplus"...
    yes FL will. Property taxes depending on the area are high plus there are constitutional amendments that prevent massive property tax raises.
    as for sales tax it is already 6% and 8% in some cities you would push that into the 10-12% range. that will lead to a massive decrease in spending.

    sin taxes are BS and have proven to not be helpful as people curb their habits to avoid paying the tax.

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