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    Re: Iran Sends Ships Toward Blockaded Yemen Port...

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    why in the **** do you think i support any of this interventionist bull****? are you even paying attention?
    Why so angry? Isn't this forum supposed to be an exchange of opinions and viewpoints?

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    let them build one, then. we need to build roads, bridges, and new energy infrastructure.
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    i'm curious about which pigeonhole you are trying to stuff me in.
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    Re: Iran Sends Ships Toward Blockaded Yemen Port...

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    Bingo.

    We've wanted someone to take arms against ISIS in Northern Iraq and Syria and it's only Iran putting serious ground troop numbers in and pushing ISIS back. That's a Sunni/Shia conflict we don't need to get involved in. Same with Yemen - Saudi Arabia vs Iran forms the same Sunni/Shia conflict and if we take sides in this then it hurts efforts elsewhere
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    Mornin IC. ISIS is a different matter.....and one that requires all to participate in. Now you are correct with their Sunni and Shia sectarian divide. Iran is only in Iraq to gain dominance over the country and its government.

    The planet is getting tired of the Arabs sectarian conflict that they just can't finish and handle. Maybe it is time to FORCE them to go to war and thus end it for once and all. After its done and over with. Then neither will be much of a concern for any others. Even better is that those left will know they wont be a threat to any others for a very very long time. So they wont be out starting any ****. Nor talking any ****. Its a win win for the planet.

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    Re: Iran Sends Ships Toward Blockaded Yemen Port...

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Why so angry? Isn't this forum supposed to be an exchange of opinions and viewpoints?
    because my country is expected to be the world's pro bono police force. most people don't even accept that it hasn't worked. meanwhile, other first world countries spend money on things like health care that actually do good. you'd be a bit pissed off, too.

    ****, you take tons of flak if you even suggest that we don't enter a war (unless it's in Africa.) you get compared to Neville Chamberlain, because every potential enemy is Hitler (except in Africa.) and those who want constant war aren't even willing to pay more in taxes to fund it. they want to fund it by cutting our social safety nets.

    now we're expected to have a dick measuring contest with Russia while fighting IS. this will be done with no tax increases, and if we have to get in bed with Assad, we just won't talk about that part, even though he used WMDs on his own people. meanwhile, Saudi Arabia will play a minimal role in the fight, just like they always do, even though this cluster**** is in their backyard. IMO, the best thing that we can do is to pull all of our troops out of that region for thirty years and let it stabilize. let the regional hegemons do their job, while we nation build here.

    am i pissed off? yes, because it's infuriating, and i don't want the next generation to be sent off to police the Middle East at the whim of some asshole politician with no skin in the game. i'd rather that my kid not have to worry about going bankrupt when his kid falls out of a tree and breaks his arm.

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    Re: Iran Sends Ships Toward Blockaded Yemen Port...

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post

    Saudi coalition airstrike yesterday on the Republican Palace in the Yemeni city of Taez

    The Saudi coalition has launched over 100 airstrikes in Yemen during the past 24 hours. 21 were killed overnight in fierce fighting in Taez. 3 AQ suspects transporting weapons were killed in a US drone strike in Saeed.

    So far, an Iranian convoy of a warship and 8 merchant vessels has not attempted to challenge a UN arms embargo of Yemen.
    And there is a strong US presence

    Navy has seven combat ships around Yemen as Saudi-led blockade continues - The Washington Post

    The U.S. Navy has seven combat ships in the waters around Yemen as the Saudi-led bombing campaign there continues, but U.S. troops are not participating in a Saudi naval blockade in the region, U.S. military officials said Friday.

    The American ships include: the destroyers USS Forrest Sherman and USS Winston Churchill; the minesweepers USS Sentry and USS Dextrous; and three amphibious ships carrying about 2,200 Marines, the USS Iwo Jima, the USS New York and the USS Fort McHenry, a Navy official told The Washington Post. The USNS Charles Drew, a dry cargo ship, is also in the region.
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    Re: Iran Sends Ships Toward Blockaded Yemen Port...

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    cute, but the point is that the Saudis still do nothing to help us police our neighborhood. i'm fine with the US and Saudi Arabia being friendly, but the US should definitely not be expected to act as regional hegemon in the Middle East. that neighborhood is the responsibility of Saudi Arabia, and regional stability is on them.
    Actually, thus far they have not done much to police their own area. In that they are similar to the Japanese or Germans.

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    Re: Iran Sends Ships Toward Blockaded Yemen Port...

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Matchlight. Was there a pic of it being shown? I think we could pick it up and let whoever know where it is at.
    I got that info from a description--haven't seen any photos. I'm sure the U.S. is tracking any Iranian ships and knows exactly where they are. But I doubt President Neville would want to tick off his soulmates in Tehran by telling any of their enemies.

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    Re: Iran Sends Ships Toward Blockaded Yemen Port...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Do we have to get involved in every frickin' dispute in the Middle East? Why is this our problem and why is it Barack Obama's job to put American service people in harm's way? To satisfy the egos of the Chicken Hawks?
    No, of course you are right. The world should have learned about 1935 that the best way to deal with aggressive dictatorships is to sit back meekly, and let them do whatever the hell they want.

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    Re: Iran Sends Ships Toward Blockaded Yemen Port...

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I got that info from a description--haven't seen any photos. I'm sure the U.S. is tracking any Iranian ships and knows exactly where they are. But I doubt President Neville would want to tick off his soulmates in Tehran by telling any of their enemies.
    Yeah, JF has up a link about our ships in the area. So we do know where they are.

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    Re: Iran Sends Ships Toward Blockaded Yemen Port...

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Bingo.

    We've wanted someone to take arms against ISIS in Northern Iraq and Syria and it's only Iran putting serious ground troop numbers in and pushing ISIS back. That's a Sunni/Shia conflict we don't need to get involved in. Same with Yemen - Saudi Arabia vs Iran forms the same Sunni/Shia conflict and if we take sides in this then it hurts efforts elsewhere.



    What would a real President do in the case of the Sunni / Shia conflict going on? Do you want US and NATO troops fighting EVERYONE in the middle east? We sink an Iranian ship and they may stop their fighting against ISIS in Iraq and Syria - they're the only nation (apart from the Iraqis and Syrians whose land is being fought over) with troops on the ground fighting ISIS.
    Of course I do not want U.S. servicemen fighting anyone, anywhere. The best way to make sure they never have to is to maintain a very strong military and make clear we will use it if necessary. The Islamist thugs in Tehran are acting aggressively exactly because of this president's weakness--he has spent six years inviting their aggression.

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    Re: Iran Sends Ships Toward Blockaded Yemen Port...

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    No, of course you are right. The world should have learned about 1935 that the best way to deal with aggressive dictatorships is to sit back meekly, and let them do whatever the hell they want.
    What a frickn' stupid analogy. Iran is not Nazi Germany and the Ayatollah isn't Hitler. But that's the kind of crap logic you get from Chicken Hawks.
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