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    Re: Michigan Car Repair Shop Owner Says He Will Turn Away Openly Gay Customers ... An

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Your belief that guns and sexual orientation are the same thing is absurd.
    Guns and sexual orientation are both things this business owner included in the Facebook posting about things he would allow and disallow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    the constitution guarantees me the right to be involved in the making of laws in other states.
    As I acknowledged, anyone is free to criticize laws in states other than his own, as much as he wants. Write editorials, contribute money to organizations that share your views, march in rallies denouncing the laws--say whatever you please. The state whose law was being criticized could not even infringe the right of its own residents to speak, let alone do that to persons outside its jurisdiction. Far from having distaste for you or any American exercising his freedom of speech, I strongly support it.

    Being a conservative, I don't presume to try to tell people in other states how they should live. The laws and policies they choose to live by do not concern me. If most people in a state want to make laws that require dog owners to diaper their pets in public places, prohibit retail stores from opening on Sundays, allow public accommodations to refuse service based on sexual orientation, or any other damn thing, that's their lookout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Guns and sexual orientation are both things this business owner included in the Facebook posting about things he would allow and disallow.
    And him being in favor of guns isn't what the thread is about. It's about his discrimination OF homosexuals. Continuing to deny it just shows how removed from the conversation you are. Nobody has called this an asshole for letting guns into his shop. What people have done is question his position on HOMOSEXUALS, Jerry. So have no fear, your guns are safe in this man's store. However, that still doesn't validate your absurd comparison of guns and an innate trait like homosexuality.

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    Re: Michigan Car Repair Shop Owner Says He Will Turn Away Openly Gay Customers ... An

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    As I acknowledged, anyone is free to criticize laws in states other than his own, as much as he wants. Write editorials, contribute money to organizations that share your views, march in rallies denouncing the laws--say whatever you please. The state whose law was being criticized could not even infringe the right of its own residents to speak, let alone do that to persons outside its jurisdiction. Far from having distaste for you or any American exercising his freedom of speech, I strongly support it.

    Being a conservative, I don't presume to try to tell people in other states how they should live. The laws and policies they choose to live by do not concern me. If most people in a state want to make laws that require dog owners to diaper their pets in public places, prohibit retail stores from opening on Sundays, allow public accommodations to refuse service based on sexual orientation, or any other damn thing, that's their lookout.
    Those of us who travel allot see it a bit differently

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    Re: Michigan Car Repair Shop Owner Says He Will Turn Away Openly Gay Customers ... An

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    What I'm having trouble with is under what possible set of circumstances would a person's sexuality come up at a car repair shop? It's not like the guy is providing services to a wedding where it's kind of obvious if there are two grooms and no bride.

    I mean, does he hook his customers up to a lie detector and ask "are you gay" before he fixes their cars?
    Good point. Could it be that what he objects to is serving people who say or do things in his presence that make clear they are homosexuals?

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    Re: Michigan Car Repair Shop Owner Says He Will Turn Away Openly Gay Customers ... An

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And him being in favor of guns isn't what the thread is about.
    Right, this thread is about a repair shop owner. I'm happy to explain it again:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    "Michigan Car Repair Shop Owner Says He Will Turn Away Openly Gay Customers"

    Subject. Verb. Object. Basic sentence structure, brought to you by literacy 101.

    The subject of this thread is the Michigan Car Repair Shop Owner. Interchanging objects is how we explore a subject, this is why people are bringing up the banning of various different things. Another poster in this thread also changed the verb, arguing that someone should open a repair shop and cater to gays. This thread is not about gays or gay rights, but the Michigan Car Repair Shop Owner.

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    Re: Michigan Car Repair Shop Owner Says He Will Turn Away Openly Gay Customers ... An

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Right, this thread is about a repair shop owner. I'm happy to explain it again:
    Yep a repair owner discriminating against gays. Continuing to deny this just makes you look silly now Jerry. It was never about guns. Nobody except for you seems to have taken it upon themselves to make such an absurd comparison. It's all you, Jerry.
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    Re: Michigan Car Repair Shop Owner Says He Will Turn Away Openly Gay Customers ... An

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Good point. Could it be that what he objects to is serving people who say or do things in his presence that make clear they are homosexuals?
    How would that be different than discriminating based on religion? In order to discriminate against someone in retail based in their religion, they either have to do something that makes a person assume they are of a certain religion or say something that does.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Michigan Car Repair Shop Owner Says He Will Turn Away Openly Gay Customers ... An

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yep a repair owner discriminating against gays.
    Subject. Verb. Object. I think you're starting to catch on, the subject of this thread is a repair shop owner, not gays.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It was never about guns.
    Right, it's about a repair shop owner. I think you got it.

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    Re: Michigan Car Repair Shop Owner Says He Will Turn Away Openly Gay Customers ... An

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Subject. Verb. Object. I think you're starting to catch on, the subject of this thread is a repair shop owner, not gays.


    Right, it's about a repair shop owner. I think you got it.
    Jerry, continuing to deny why everyone has criticized this person in this thread, and the discussions being held won't change the topic of the thread which is fact his discrimination of gays.
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