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    Re: Two TSA Officers Fired for Scheme to Grope Attractive Men at Denver Airport

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Airport/airline security was not fine. When four or five morons, armed with box cutters, are allowed to drive aircraft into buildings that was a sure indication that a airport/airline security problem existed. The addition of TSA nannies may be sufficient to provide adequate airport/airline security but I have my doubts. What TSA did was to shift that security responsibility to the government likely saving the airline industry lots of money.
    No, it was fine and pointing one incident does not somehow change that. I don't expect things to be 100% perfect and I'm not going to call something a failure because one thing happened under their watch. Hell, the government fails to solve murders all the time, and yet no one is calling for their replacement. Go figure.

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    Re: Two TSA Officers Fired for Scheme to Grope Attractive Men at Denver Airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If you did that then the women would be complaining like they were before the policy was put in place. The fact is there isn't a policy that can be put in place that can make all the parties happy.
    Well then women will be complaining, but if no actual groping occurs, then they need to be ignored like all the other whiners and complainers.
    At any rate, it's definitely a catch22 for the LGBT issues. One that will ultimately need to be addressed.

    As I point out in another post, it is interesting though that this man apparently didn't in fact grope anyone or pat-down inappropriately, he just inconvenienced people who might not otherwise been inconvenienced. If he'd groped anyone, there'd be complaints and apparently there are none.
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    Re: Two TSA Officers Fired for Scheme to Grope Attractive Men at Denver Airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Well then women will be complaining, but if no actual groping occurs, then they need to be ignored like all the other whiners and complainers.
    At any rate, it's definitely a catch22 for the LGBT issues. One that will ultimately need to be addressed.

    As I point out in another post, it is interesting though that this man apparently didn't in fact grope anyone or pat-down inappropriately, he just inconvenienced people who might not otherwise been inconvenienced. If he'd groped anyone, there'd be complaints and apparently there are none.
    I doubt many men are likely to complain about it honestly. From the sounds of what happened however it is apparent he did grope the man in question. Anyway, the chances they are going to piss off women by putting in place your proposed policy is extremely likely and since society seems generally in agreement that women's interests are not to be ignored I wouldn't count on your proposed policy change ever happening.

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    Re: Two TSA Officers Fired for Scheme to Grope Attractive Men at Denver Airport

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The (bolded above) assertions seem to contradict each other; either we did or did not meddle to prevent "allies' from meddling. What we did was to make foreign policy decisions - sometimes to meddle and sometimes not to meddle. While we went all in to stop apartheid in South Africa we did (and continue to do) little or nothing about gender and religious discrimination in the ME. You cannot blame the US for both meddling and not meddling in the ME since they are mutually exclusive.
    We didn't prevent their meddling and we did meddling of our own that is what I was trying to convey.

    Half of the problems; if not more are from our own poor decisions in that region of the world.
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    Re: Two TSA Officers Fired for Scheme to Grope Attractive Men at Denver Airport

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Nicci.

    They were content just to slaughter each other because of religious differences for over 1300 years before we joined the melee! Voila! a whole new group to hate and eliminate, because their God says they earn a place with him after they die if they obey him in killing the "infidels!" Prior to this, I didn't even know I was an infidel. Live and learn...
    Yup, had we just left well enough alone. We wouldn't even be having this discussion.
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    Re: Two TSA Officers Fired for Scheme to Grope Attractive Men at Denver Airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I doubt many men are likely to complain about it honestly. From the sounds of what happened however it is apparent he did grope the man in question.
    Which man in question? He was turned in to the TSA by a tipster, it could be an employee or a friend/relative, someone who overheard him bragging about it.. we have no idea and assuming is idiotic.
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    Re: Two TSA Officers Fired for Scheme to Grope Attractive Men at Denver Airport

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    Yup, had we just left well enough alone. We wouldn't even be having this discussion.
    Our support of Israel would have been enough to paint a target on our backs.
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    Re: Two TSA Officers Fired for Scheme to Grope Attractive Men at Denver Airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Our support of Israel would have been enough to paint a target on our backs.
    Perhaps we shouldn't have let UK draw the countries borders(Israel). We did have a say in that mess after the war.

    There are a lot of things that we have targets on our back for, but supporting another country is not one of them.
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    Re: Two TSA Officers Fired for Scheme to Grope Attractive Men at Denver Airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Nope, how about file charges against them for sexual assault ?

    The **** would stop in a instant
    Regardless of NBC's hype, there's no evidence the TSA officer actually ever groped anyone. They've been watching him for a while in order to get evidence to fire him, but no criminal charges because no one complained... if they'd seen groping on the surveillance of his pat-downs during their investigations they'd have proof, which they don't which tells me he conducted the pat-downs according to regulations.

    Edited to add, okay his palms were facing the wrong way, though I question the validity of a pat-down by the backs of anyone's hands. If that's groping they should've arrested him.
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    Re: Two TSA Officers Fired for Scheme to Grope Attractive Men at Denver Airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Which man in question? He was turned in to the TSA by a tipster, it could be an employee or a friend/relative, someone who overheard him bragging about it.. we have no idea and assuming is idiotic.
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    A TSA investigator observed the scheme in action at 9:25 a.m. on Feb. 9, when he saw a screener give a signal to another and then pat down the passenger's groin and buttocks using the palms of his hands, which is forbidden by TSA rules, according to the police report.
    They caught the guy in the act from the sounds of it.

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