Thread: Deal Reached on Fast-Track Authority for Obama on Trade Pact

Originally Posted by Chainsaw

Centrist???!?!??! ^^^^LOL^^^^.

Obama is the whiny sniveling American apologist and chief, bowing to and sucking up to the worlds worst scum bag dictators and ruling bodies. He is a globalist that is embarrassed, shamed and resentful of US supremacy and success. This is part of his active policy to knock America down to the same level other countries..........and he is willing to achieve his goal on the backs of the American worker.

PS, quit whining, you voted for this.

Yes a centrist. A very big centrist. Just because your views are either so far right, or much of the republican party has moved so far right does not mean Obama is some "far left wing leftist" as many in the Tea Party have made him out to be. I mean for ****s sake he promotes many of the policies of ****ing Reagan...

Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist

Yes a centrist. A very big centrist. Just because your views are either so far right, or much of the republican party has moved so far right does not mean Obama is some "far left wing leftist" as many in the Tea Party have made him out to be. I mean for ****s sake he promotes many of the policies of ****ing Reagan...

Name ONE President who has been left of Obama? And supporting data and examples.

You are obviously just ashamed and embarrassed for having supported and voted for that worthless narcissistic lying empty suit.....TWICE

Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist

Yes a centrist. A very big centrist. Just because your views are either so far right, or much of the republican party has moved so far right does not mean Obama is some "far left wing leftist" as many in the Tea Party have made him out to be. I mean for ****s sake he promotes many of the policies of ****ing Reagan...

I think Chomsky says it best.

Originally Posted by Chainsaw

Name ONE President who has been left of Obama? And supporting data and examples.

Easy FDR. Massive publics works program, introducing one of the most progressive VP's of all time Henry Wallace, introduced a second bill of rights which essentially promoted social democracy in America but unfortunately died before it had a chance.

You are obviously just ashamed and embarrassed for having supported and voted for that worthless narcissistic lying empty suit.....TWICE

Meh. I would say I voted for Obama. Never really been impressed with him, or "excited". If you mean "ashamed" as I will criticize the man, I mean either way I would be criticizing if McCain won or Romney won. They are clear corporatists.

I mean for ****s sake, if Obama is some "far left" President, then ****, Eisenhower might as well be "far left" as well.

Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist

Easy FDR. Massive publics works program, introducing one of the most progressive VP's of all time Henry Wallace, introduced a second bill of rights which essentially promoted social democracy in America but unfortunately died before it had a chance.

Hhhhhmmmmmmm....ssssuuuurrrrreeeee. Was FDR 'left' enough for you?

Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist

Ahh yea loss of jobs for Americans, and specifically American manufacturing. Damn "lefties"! Those damn "leftie" jobs are off to China, Vietnam, and Malaysia, because those places are known to make such great, high quality products! Its not like in 2007 millions of product items were recalled. Such great products made there, from the finest 12 year olds!

I never said China made high quality manufactured products, only that they we of comparable quality to those products built by high cost unionised US Labor. In the end, I would rather support those trying to recover from Socialism than those trying to force Socialism down my throat.

The only reason for anyone in the US to fear competition is because they know they are losers who cannot compete. Those who support Liberalism and other forms of socialism in the US fear competition because they are losers. Others simply accept the challenge and work to meet it.

Originally Posted by Helix

sorry, i don't agree. before environmental regulations, creeks were catching on fire. **** that.

Apparently you don't understand that when I speak against the greenie-weenies and environmentalist political agenda that I am not against reasonable and firmly provable environmental protections. However, there is nothing "reasonable" about the EPA.

Not dumping chemicals into the water is reasonable. However, many of their agendas are not reasonable but socialistic in intention. Such as the clean air act and the EPAs push for government control of all fresh water.

The clean air act is so screwed up that it is illegal to change your vehicle to cleaner fuels or even to electric because it "alters the fuel system" and associated environmental equipment. It gives a means to enforce a "government knows best" ideology and cripples individual efforts of innovation.

If you ever worked in a safety office, then you would also realise that OSHA doesn't just enforce reasonable, common sense safety but creates metric tons of useless paperwork to show that a company has trained stupid people not to be stupid and to hold companies responsible should someone stupid do something stupid on the companies properties. In other words, it is not about safety, but about exerting greater government control.

Originally Posted by American

Why is Obama championing it?

Because in the end on most things, there's a dimes thickness in difference between the elephant and the ass. You do know that the GOP is all about TPP, right?