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    Re: Conservative Group Bars Log Cabin Republicans From Event

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Organizers of a conservative conference in Denver this summer have told a gay Republican group it cannot have a booth at the event.

    Read the article here: Conservative Group Bars Log Cabin Republicans From Event - US News

    What happened to the GOP's big tent? Any ideas on that?
    It's not a GOP event.
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    Re: Conservative Group Bars Log Cabin Republicans From Event

    Quote Originally Posted by coyotedelmar View Post
    Wellll:
    2015 WSJ/NBC poll
    59% of all Americans support same sex marriage
    40% of Republicans support same sex marriage
    35% of conservatives support same sex marriage
    29% of core Republican voters support same sex marriage
    50% of Republican voters would be less favorable to a candidate who didn't support same sex marriage
    19% would be more favorable

    Support for Gay Marriage Hits All-Time High — WSJ/NBC News Poll - Washington Wire - WSJ


    2014 Gallup
    55% of all Americans in favor of same sex marriage
    58% of independents in favor of same sex marriage
    63% of moderates in favor of same sex marriage

    Same-Sex Marriage Support Reaches New High at 55%


    So yeah, tide is changing. Still think Republicans would do much better with younger voters if they eased way up on social issues. Highly doubt the "religious right," is going to bolt if they did. Who are they even going to vote for if they tried? Libertarians would probably be seen almost as bad as voting democrat, and not sure any of the smaller parties on the right even get on the ballot most of the time.
    Polls are awesome...right up until people go to actually vote on things. Funny how the results dont match the polls. Course...that could be because polls are designed to produce predetermined results. But since the polls are so reliable, now would be a swell time to put this issue to a vote and put it to bed once and for all.

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    Re: Conservative Group Bars Log Cabin Republicans From Event

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Well this is why no one who is gay should ever consider associating with repubs like this. Talk about getting slapped in the face and asking for more
    You are correct. If you are gay and only care about gay marriage, you should never be a republican.

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    Re: Conservative Group Bars Log Cabin Republicans From Event

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You are correct. If you are gay and only care about gay marriage, you should never be a republican.
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    Re: Conservative Group Bars Log Cabin Republicans From Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Actually, it will only be a problem for people who wouldn't vote GOP anyway. And this still wasn't a GOP event.
    ...which will be 53% of the voters...

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    Re: Conservative Group Bars Log Cabin Republicans From Event

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    The republican base is primarily motivated by social issues. They talk small government, but its the culture war whipping post of the day that brings them out in droves to the polls. They will have to find another group to demonize before gays and lesbians are really accepted in the party. In fact I would say the Log Cabin Republicans are fighting a losing battle trying to get the socially conservative right to accept them. What they need to do is find the socially conservative right another group to demonize. Maybe gay Muslims. Then the Log Cabin Republicans could describe themselves as non-Muslim Gays and thus not a part of the Muslim Gay and Lesbian Agenda.
    I was so sure that group would be illegals, but with a net 0 immigration the past few years, it's not only a non issue but they can't afford to alienate hispanic voters even more.

    But i agree with you that they'll have to find another target before moving on from gay bashing. I mean, the last thing repubs can afford to do is allow real issues to be the focus. They can't risk losing all those rural and southern dwellers who have proven willing to vote against their own economic interest, so long as there's a minority they can vote against.

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    Re: Conservative Group Bars Log Cabin Republicans From Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I'll try and take this one. As I said earlier in the thread I have a lot of friends in both GOProud and Log Cabin Republicans and people always expect a gay republican to fit a particular mold. People tend to assume that they are basically just bohemians concerned about taxes when in fact they run the gamut. There are senior officers in both organizations who are genuine pro-life evangelical christians, and plenty in the rank and file as well. Do they represent the majority or even a large proportion? No. But they are there. The organizations pursue these conventions because their goal is to gain acceptance for their members in the Republican Party, all of their members. Furthermore the goal isn't just to steer the GOP ship of state towards a more socially liberal place, its to try and foster acceptance with all of the big factions within the party and thus widen the tent. Is it a fools errand to try and knock down the door at these things? Maybe, maybe not. But I remember when GOProud got its first booth at CPAC it stirred the pot, brought a lot of attention, and ended up winning some support to the cause from high profile donors, media figures, and the rank and file.

    I long for the day that gay and lesbians are really and fully accepted in the Republican Party. Until that day I'm not going to cast aspersions on whatever efforts these organizations take to further the cause.
    Well a couple things have changed. Dems have finally distinguished themselves in this area, so there is an alternative, and once the primary started, ALL the major candidates came forward with fred phelps level bigoted talk and extremist plans like undoing the supreme court decision. It seems to me that whatever progress was made within the party has been lost, at least where it counts

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    Re: Conservative Group Bars Log Cabin Republicans From Event

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Well a couple things have changed. Dems have finally distinguished themselves in this area, so there is an alternative, and once the primary started, ALL the major candidates came forward with fred phelps level bigoted talk and extremist plans like undoing the supreme court decision. It seems to me that whatever progress was made within the party has been lost, at least where it counts
    A massive amount of progress has been lost. As much as the establishment has regained control of the party and put a tamp on the radicals it's come at the cost of 'easy' concessions like this. When GOProud was banned from CPAC barely anyone raised a peep. We've come a long way from 2008 when we had a gay rights champion as a potential front runner--and it isn't good.

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    Re: Conservative Group Bars Log Cabin Republicans From Event

    I would not have let them be part of a conservative event either. No conservative, of whatever sexual orientation, would favor having the Supreme Court concoct a constitutional "right" of homosexuals to marry each other. Any state that chooses to include same-sex couples in its marriage laws is already perfectly free to do that, as a number of states have. In the same way, every state should be free to exclude same-sex couples from its marriage laws. The matter does not raise any constitutional question.

    The proponents of the homosexual agenda are statists, and like their fellow statist and idol Barack Obama, they do not give a damn about the Constitution or the rule of law. True to their bullying, brownshirt instincts, they care only about forcing everyone else to do things their way. The people who want to play junior gauleiter in this country are asking for a fight they are not ready for.

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    Re: Conservative Group Bars Log Cabin Republicans From Event

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I would not have let them be part of a conservative event either. No conservative, of whatever sexual orientation, would favor having the Supreme Court concoct a constitutional "right" of homosexuals to marry each other. Any state that chooses to include same-sex couples in its marriage laws is already perfectly free to do that, as a number of states have. In the same way, every state should be free to exclude same-sex couples from its marriage laws. The matter does not raise any constitutional question.

    The proponents of the homosexual agenda are statists, and like their fellow statist and idol Barack Obama, they do not give a damn about the Constitution or the rule of law. True to their bullying, brownshirt instincts, they care only about forcing everyone else to do things their way. The people who want to play junior gauleiter in this country are asking for a fight they are not ready for.
    You are exactly what is destroying our party. Mindless, dogmatic, reactionary drivel. The homosexual agenda? Good god.

    PS: Their idol Barack Obama? Have you ever met a gay person in real life? Let alone a gay Republican.

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