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    Re: Police and "Free Range" Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    This falls on the cops, because it wasn't the CPS that brought them into this crisis center. Imagine how terrified the parents were getting the call and picking them up from a "crisis center".
    CPS is not allowed to do so. Only the police can do that, but CPS could have simply told the officers to take the children home or call the parents to pick them up

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    Re: Police and "Free Range" Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    CPS is not allowed to do so. Only the police can do that, but CPS could have simply told the officers to take the children home or call the parents to pick them up
    If a cop brings two children to their central location, they have to investigate. The discretion lies with the police in this regard.
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    Re: Police and "Free Range" Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    If a cop brings two children to their central location, they have to investigate. The discretion lies with the police in this regard.
    CPS could simply instruct the police to return the children home. They don't need to investigate under such circumstances

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    Re: Police and "Free Range" Children

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    Now that's a nanny state.
    Yep. It appears that a proper nanny, at least 13 years of age, must constantly supervise Maryland's youth at all times.

    Maryland has an ordinance that a child under 8 has to be cared for by someone at least 13.
    The dilemma, in this case, was that only the youngest child, at age 6, was illegally being "free range" - the 10 year old was not breaking the law in any way.

    'Free range kids' and the dangers of an overprotective society | Fox News
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    Re: Police and "Free Range" Children

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    Child protective services was a terrible idea.
    Strongly, disagree, BUT in order for it to work, we need intelligent, NOT living in fear people ..As neighbors, parents, and the services .. so .. what happened ?
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    To fix , throw away that TV with all its negative media ..

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    Re: Police and "Free Range" Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    CPS could simply instruct the police to return the children home. They don't need to investigate under such circumstances
    That doesn't make any sense. If a the police thought it was worth their time to bring the children to CPS, that pretty much ties their hands. They must take that seriously. As stated, the discretion was with the police, and they chose to over react.
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    Re: Police and "Free Range" Children

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yep. It appears that a proper nanny, at least 13 years of age, must constantly supervise Maryland's youth at all times.



    The dilemma, in this case, was that only the youngest child, at age 6, was illegally being "free range" - the 10 year old was not breaking the law in any way.

    'Free range kids' and the dangers of an overprotective society | Fox News
    That ordinance only applies to children left in a dwelling or a car.

    Baltimore County Md. Police - Frequently Asked Questions

    Q. What is the current State of Maryland law pertaining to unattended children?
    A. Maryland Family Law Art. 5-801 states:

    a) "A person who is charged with the care of a child under the age of 8 years may not allow the child to be locked or confined in a dwelling, building, enclosure or motor vehicle while the person charged is absent and the dwelling, building, enclosure or motor vehicle is out of sight of the person charged unless the person charged provides at person at least 13 years old to remain with the child to protect the child.

    b) A person who violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction is subject to a fine not exceeding $500 or imprisonment not exceeding 30 days or both."
    They weren't breaking the law.

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    Re: Police and "Free Range" Children

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    That ordinance only applies to children left in a dwelling or a car.

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    They weren't breaking the law.
    The children were taken by police (and/or CPS) for not breaking the law? That simply defies logic. The nanny state is definitely out of control if they can simply make up a violation based on a citizen complaint and their desire to "do something".
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    We must instill fear in our children today, otherwise it will be harder in the future to have them fear the government enough to obey.
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    Re: Police and "Free Range" Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    That doesn't make any sense. If a the police thought it was worth their time to bring the children to CPS, that pretty much ties their hands. They must take that seriously. As stated, the discretion was with the police, and they chose to over react.
    That's not sufficient cause for CPS to over act in turn

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