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    Re: Ramadi could fall as ISIS militants lay siege, Iraqi official warns

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    Its all about the bling, symbolism over substance. Frankly, the whole impervious to sales pitch thing, the no-nonsense outlook is something I see more in immigrants these days-and I love it. Wish it was more prevalent in society as a whole.

    An open and free society is a great thing, but without some degree of virtue it gets to this. Moral relativism has contributed.
    Moral relativism is the cause. You have an entire political party founded on that principle
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    Re: Ramadi could fall as ISIS militants lay siege, Iraqi official warns

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Moral relativism is the cause. You have an entire political party founded on that principle
    Right so many they defend ISIS and attack conservatives.

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    Re: Ramadi could fall as ISIS militants lay siege, Iraqi official warns

    From The Washington Post:

    A column of traffic several vehicles wide snaked for miles at a checkpoint in Sadr al-Yusufiyah, on the edge of Baghdad province, as minibuses, cars and trucks picked up families who crossed by foot carrying their possessions in bags and wheelbarrows. Suhaib al-Rawi, the governor of Anbar province, of which Ramadi is the capital, described it as a human disaster on a scale the city has never witnessed.

    U.S. and Iraqi officials have warned that the city is at risk of falling to the Islamic State despite seven months of airstrikes by U.S. planes in Anbar. Such a loss would be a serious blow to Iraq’s government, which recently announced a military campaign for the province after retaking the militant stronghold of Tikrit, and to the international effort to push back the militant group, whose gains in Ramadi have demonstrated an ability to create chaos even while under pressure.


    Thousands of Iraqis flee as Islamic State makes gains in Sunni heartland - The Washington Post

    On April 14,the BBC reported:

    Islamic State (IS) has lost more than a quarter of its territory in Iraq since the US-led coalition air campaign began in August, a Pentagon spokesman says.

    Iraq 'retakes over quarter of Islamic State territory' - BBC News

    The differing accounts suggest a risk that the territorial situation remains fluid. Iraqi gains in some areas have occurred, but Iraqi losses have occurred in others. Moreover, even where gains have occurred, the issue of sustainability may exist. In short, ISIS continues to pose major risks in Iraq (as well as Syria). Much more remains to be done before the ISIS threat is significantly reduced.

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    Re: Ramadi could fall as ISIS militants lay siege, Iraqi official warns

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    From The Washington Post:

    A column of traffic several vehicles wide snaked for miles at a checkpoint in Sadr al-Yusufiyah, on the edge of Baghdad province, as minibuses, cars and trucks picked up families who crossed by foot carrying their possessions in bags and wheelbarrows. Suhaib al-Rawi, the governor of Anbar province, of which Ramadi is the capital, described it as a human disaster on a scale the city has never witnessed.

    U.S. and Iraqi officials have warned that the city is at risk of falling to the Islamic State despite seven months of airstrikes by U.S. planes in Anbar. Such a loss would be a serious blow to Iraq’s government, which recently announced a military campaign for the province after retaking the militant stronghold of Tikrit, and to the international effort to push back the militant group, whose gains in Ramadi have demonstrated an ability to create chaos even while under pressure.


    Thousands of Iraqis flee as Islamic State makes gains in Sunni heartland - The Washington Post

    On April 14,the BBC reported:

    Islamic State (IS) has lost more than a quarter of its territory in Iraq since the US-led coalition air campaign began in August, a Pentagon spokesman says.

    Iraq 'retakes over quarter of Islamic State territory' - BBC News

    The differing accounts suggest a risk that the territorial situation remains fluid. Iraqi gains in some areas have occurred, but Iraqi losses have occurred in others. Moreover, even where gains have occurred, the issue of sustainability may exist. In short, ISIS continues to pose major risks in Iraq (as well as Syria). Much more remains to be done before the ISIS threat is significantly reduced.
    I wonder if six months from now we will see an ISIS offensive in Tikrik. ISIS really doesn't seem strong enough to hold territory when confronted by a credible force. We will see if the Iraqi army is any different. They haven't proven it so far.

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    Re: Ramadi could fall as ISIS militants lay siege, Iraqi official warns

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    From The Washington Post:

    A column of traffic several vehicles wide snaked for miles at a checkpoint in Sadr al-Yusufiyah, on the edge of Baghdad province, as minibuses, cars and trucks picked up families who crossed by foot carrying their possessions in bags and wheelbarrows. Suhaib al-Rawi, the governor of Anbar province, of which Ramadi is the capital, described it as a human disaster on a scale the city has never witnessed.

    U.S. and Iraqi officials have warned that the city is at risk of falling to the Islamic State despite seven months of airstrikes by U.S. planes in Anbar. Such a loss would be a serious blow to Iraq’s government, which recently announced a military campaign for the province after retaking the militant stronghold of Tikrit, and to the international effort to push back the militant group, whose gains in Ramadi have demonstrated an ability to create chaos even while under pressure.


    Thousands of Iraqis flee as Islamic State makes gains in Sunni heartland - The Washington Post

    On April 14,the BBC reported:

    Islamic State (IS) has lost more than a quarter of its territory in Iraq since the US-led coalition air campaign began in August, a Pentagon spokesman says.

    Iraq 'retakes over quarter of Islamic State territory' - BBC News

    The differing accounts suggest a risk that the territorial situation remains fluid. Iraqi gains in some areas have occurred, but Iraqi losses have occurred in others. Moreover, even where gains have occurred, the issue of sustainability may exist. In short, ISIS continues to pose major risks in Iraq (as well as Syria). Much more remains to be done before the ISIS threat is significantly reduced.
    Even the fact that Iraqi's aren't making and holding gains is a sign of the failure.

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    Re: Ramadi could fall as ISIS militants lay siege, Iraqi official warns

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I wonder if six months from now we will see an ISIS offensive in Tikrik. ISIS really doesn't seem strong enough to hold territory when confronted by a credible force. We will see if the Iraqi army is any different. They haven't proven it so far.
    Of course they aren't, but they are fluid-they can move and hold territory after conventional forces pull out. If need be, they can pull across to Syria or elsewhere until the heat dies back down and move back in.

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