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    Re: Dashcam video shows Arizona officer intentionally running over suspect

    Anybody firing off a gun in police presence is committing suicide actually. I can't see excessive force in this.
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    Re: Dashcam video shows Arizona officer intentionally running over suspect

    I see nothing wrong on how this was handled. The guy was carrying and shooting a high powered rifle that can hit targets at long distances. Using the car as the take down weapon made sense. The way it was executed was on the money. Catching the suspect by surprise and no other shots were fired. Officer was safe and the suspect lived. Which is more than can be said if shots would have been fired.

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    Re: Dashcam video shows Arizona officer intentionally running over suspect

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    He was told to surrender and ignored commands. The game changed a bit when he actually fired the gun. Until then, the cops didn't know if it was loaded.

    He is lucky to be alive.
    Still don't agree with running him over like that. I think it is overkill in that situation.
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    Re: Dashcam video shows Arizona officer intentionally running over suspect

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Still don't agree with running him over like that. I think it is overkill in that situation.


    What would have been appropriate?
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    Re: Dashcam video shows Arizona officer intentionally running over suspect

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    What would have been appropriate?
    I am not trained in violence escalation tactics and prevention of that escalation.

    Maybe police needs to be trained longer in solving these kinds of situations.
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    Re: Dashcam video shows Arizona officer intentionally running over suspect

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I am not trained in violence escalation tactics and prevention of that escalation.

    Maybe police needs to be trained longer in solving these kinds of situations.


    so, "Don't do that, but I have no idea what you should do"....


    If you are not "trained in violence escalation tactics and prevention of that escalation." how can you possibly declare his choice here wrong?
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    Re: Dashcam video shows Arizona officer intentionally running over suspect

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Still don't agree with running him over like that. I think it is overkill in that situation.
    He was firing a rifle in the middle of a street where hundreds of people were working and threatening to shoot himself.

    He needed to be taken down quickly.

    If that officer hadn't done what he did, the others might have killed him.
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    Re: Dashcam video shows Arizona officer intentionally running over suspect

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    What would have been appropriate?
    A sniper with spotter positioned by a highway billboard, full camo. A carefully calculated shot through his firing hand.

    or

    Playing very loud lullaby music with two officers running behind with pillows, warm clean sheets and a cot.
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    Re: Dashcam video shows Arizona officer intentionally running over suspect

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    He was firing a rifle in the middle of a street where hundreds of people were working and threatening to shoot himself.

    He needed to be taken down quickly.

    If that officer hadn't done what he did, the others might have killed him.
    I agree this guy was going to end up shooting someone. He sure didn't have his deer tags.

    But as I rewatch that video I can't believe how tight of a spot that was for the officer to crash through. The area before the crash and the area after were safer but that is just Monday morning quarterbacking. Perhaps the officer had gone up and down that road a hundred times and knew where the cinderblock wall was and how high.

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    Re: Dashcam video shows Arizona officer intentionally running over suspect

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    I agree this guy was going to end up shooting someone. He sure didn't have his deer tags.

    But as I rewatch that video I can't believe how tight of a spot that was for the officer to crash through. The area before the crash and the area after were safer but that is just Monday morning quarterbacking. Perhaps the officer had gone up and down that road a hundred times and knew where the cinderblock wall was and how high.
    Maybe he wanted a backstop .;/
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