“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary (or faith) depends upon his not understanding it.”
And why would households that own guns be more likely to be invaded by gun wielding murderers, AND be more likely to be killed by gun wielding murderers. I thought having a gun at home protected people from gun wielding murderers, but households with a gun are more likely to have someone in the house murdered. Instead, having a gun at home increases your odds of getting murdered. If the murder weapon isn't the homeowner's gun, then having one doesn't protect anyone, it just makes it more likely an intruder with a gun kills them. Either way, your risk of death goes up.
That's the logical argument. If you care to address it, be my guest.
LOL - a paper published in the Annals of Internal Medicine as is invalid 'reserch.'I'm not spending the time to go into detail on spicific reserch subjects until you prove you're worth the time by using valid reserch for once. If you keep asking I'll just report you for spamming.
And if you want to report me for spamming, run to the mods for cover, because I ask you to support a specific claim - "In fact, virtually all of those deaths were due to guns being brought in by criminals getting into the home." - suit yourself. I don't need help from the moderators to debate.
If I were to assume your premise that there is a correlation between owning a gun and being more likely to become a victim of gun-related violence, I would suggest to you that the person was first at a higher risk and then bought the gun because of that higher risk. Your sources don't say which came first, the gun or the risk. A person may first become suicidal and then buy a gun to carry it out. A person may first enter into a higher crime risk area and then buy a gun to defend against it. Your sources don't say either way, and that's one way in which your sources are faulty: incomplete data.
Owning a fire extinguisher doesn't mean you're less likely to have a fire, and if someone you trust suggested a correlation between owning a fire extinguisher and suffering a small fire you would no doubt come here and argue that fire extinguishers cause fires.
Last edited by Jerry; 04-16-15 at 10:47 AM.
"Political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible. . . . Thus political language has to consist largely of euphemism, question-begging and sheer cloudy vagueness."
~Orwell, Politics and the English Language
Ive said this before and Ill say it again, we love guns but they dont love us. if we want to live with guns we have accept the we will die with them.
“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert”. – J Robert Oppenheimer.