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    Re: One-year-old shot dead by 3-year old in Cleveland home.

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Who are we supposed to be defending ourselves against that would require us to have such an arsenal. Ze Germans ? , The Zulu's ?, The Mafia ?
    Your own govt of course.

    Because you know that we'd come save your asses again if there was an outside threat.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: One-year-old shot dead by 3-year old in Cleveland home.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Those are 2 more sources that assume the gun kept in the home is the gun which caused the injury. You have no proof that was the case. Again you offer faulty research.
    Prove this research is faulty ? Your own subjective opinion doesn't cut it

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    Re: One-year-old shot dead by 3-year old in Cleveland home.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    BULL ****. . I linked to the FBI uniform crime report, showing about fourteen thousand TOTAL murders per year for several years (from all weapons/causes)... you're trying to say over three thousand of them are "children"?


    If you count 25yo gang bangers as "children", as some of these so -called "studies" have, perhaps.

    Utter nonsense.
    Prove it ?

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    Re: One-year-old shot dead by 3-year old in Cleveland home.

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Prove this research is faulty ?
    I did. The research doesn't prove that the gun which caused the death is the same gun which was kept in the home. The research claimed they were the same but nowhere in that study do yo find their proof. That's the fault, they made a claim without proof.

    You want me to quote something, but that there's no proof to be quoted is the very thing which is faulty.

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    Re: One-year-old shot dead by 3-year old in Cleveland home.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    All Jerry's stats and studies for one.
    His stats were 6 years old or more. I posted more recent and relevant data that countered them which you would already know had you bothered opening any of them

    Now again what data have YOU posted that I've ignored ?

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    Re: One-year-old shot dead by 3-year old in Cleveland home.

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    It's a good bet that they won't do it again while they're locked up in prison, eh?
    Same should happen to the parents that leave their kids to die in hot cars right?

    How about the parents whose kid drowns in their pool?
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    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: One-year-old shot dead by 3-year old in Cleveland home.

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    The American Academy of Pediatrics wrote in 2012 that “firearm-related deaths continue as 1 of the top 3 causes of death in American youth.” [/I]
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    They are full of ****.

    Firearm deaths don't make the top ten causes of death for children and adolescents.

    Common Causes of Death for Children


    1 2 and 3 are car accidents, drowning and fires.

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    Re: One-year-old shot dead by 3-year old in Cleveland home.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The research cited assumes that if a person was killed and a gun was owned in the home, it was the gun in the home that was responsible for the death. In fact, virtually all of those deaths were due to guns being brought in by criminals getting into the home.

    Faulty research.
    Please provide a citation for that evidence.

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    Re: One-year-old shot dead by 3-year old in Cleveland home.

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Prove it ?
    Quote the part of the study which shows that the gun which caused the injury/death is the same gun that was kept in the home.

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    Re: One-year-old shot dead by 3-year old in Cleveland home.

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    His stats were 6 years old or more. I posted more recent and relevant data that countered them which you would already know had you bothered opening any of them

    Now again what data have YOU posted that I've ignored ?


    6 years old means they're irrelevant right? After all nothing that happened more than 6 years ago matters.

    I didn't say you didn't have some excuse why not. I just said you ignored them as irrelevant, because you don't WANT to consider stats that don't support your position.


    Just admit that's what you're doing.

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