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Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

Show a violent tendency, and I dont care. You get what you give. You become a drain on society by being a drugged out moron. You have lost your basic rights.

Such as the Constitutional one to due process and a jury by your peers, etc?

WHich tyranny are you living in? Not America, that's for sure. The American govt and those acting in its stead are not judges and executioners.
 
Show a violent tendency, and I dont care. You get what you give. You become a drain on society by being a drugged out moron. You have lost your basic rights.

So you are a fan of the Judge Dredd model of justice?
 
Show a violent tendency, and I dont care. You get what you give. You become a drain on society by being a drugged out moron. You have lost your basic rights.

or, given that we have a war on drugs, why not just go out and shoot the enemy? That's what is done in a war, right?

and then, anyone who is captured is an enemy combatant. Send them to Gitmo for the duration. That'll show those drugged out morons.
 
Must have been 'stun guns.' Contact weapons.

Meh, they managed to make TNG phasers without pistol grips, I'm sure we could do the same with tasers :mrgreen:

TNG prop artists thought firearms should look like remote controls in the future. They also had uniforms with no freakin' pockets. There's nothing "futuristic" about that!
 
TNG prop artists thought firearms should look like remote controls in the future. They also had uniforms with no freakin' pockets. There's nothing "futuristic" about that!

LOL Gene Roddenberry hated pockets!
 
Disagree. The cop is the responsible and professional adult here. It is his job to protect the citizens, including the fleeing suspect. It is his job to determine the appropriate force for the circumstance. He is the one that is supposedly trained on the various scenarios, including the fleeing suspect. I don't know about you, but I leaning toward the idea he used a little too much force, which is a result of his bad judgment.

What video did you watch? This guy was trying to subdue a fleeing and fight suspect and he stated his intentions, per protocol, numerous times. He just didn't do what he thought he was doing. But he only attempted to use the stun gun because the suspect fled and fought. That makes the suspect at least partially liable.

Though its not a particularly good idea to run from the law, as you set up circumstances of the other guy's bad judgment, the idea that the suspect is culpable is a bit over the top.

His judgement wasn't wrong. He chose a non-lethal submission technique. He did grab the wrong weapon, but that wasn't a judgement call, that was a mistake. He never intended to shoot the man.

BTW, the other exasperating factor here was that the suspect was black.

No its not! It had absolutely nothing to do with it! Watch the video.

In case you haven't seen a trend here, all of these situations that have been discussed on DP have been white police officers shooting at unarmed black men. Maybe I am the only one seeing the pattern. It would be interesting for someone to check that out: is there a pattern?

The trend I see is the trend of cop hating jack asses pointing at every death of a black man as a clear sign of racism without any proof. Meanwhile, there have been black cops that killed white kids and not one of you assumed that was racist. I wonder why that is? Is it only white cops that are capable of racism? Because if think that when race A kills race B it is automatically racism but the reverse is not, then you are racist against race A.
 
Show a violent tendency, and I dont care. You get what you give. You become a drain on society by being a drugged out moron. You have lost your basic rights.

Standing up for a wannabe cop killing someone?

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I'm shocked.
 
I don't know if the police committed any crimes in this case. That is for the people responsible for investigating it to determine. It's impossible to say how much process a person injured or killed by police was due without knowing all the facts. When a man police know has just killed people levels his gun at them, and they fire and kill him, they have not deprived him of life without due process of law.

But I think it's good to keep in mind that about one million American men have died, often very young, often alone, and often in agony, to secure the constitutional rights we enjoy as a free people. When so much blood has been shed to protect those rights, none of us should ever take any violation of any of them by government, or any agent of government, lightly.
 
Show a violent tendency, and I dont care. You get what you give. You become a drain on society by being a drugged out moron. You have lost your basic rights.

Actually, you don't lose your rights.
 
or, given that we have a war on drugs, why not just go out and shoot the enemy? That's what is done in a war, right?

and then, anyone who is captured is an enemy combatant. Send them to Gitmo for the duration. That'll show those drugged out morons.

I'd actually have no issue with that, only demand that any loved ones they have pay for their incarceration.
 
Such as the Constitutional one to due process and a jury by your peers, etc?

WHich tyranny are you living in? Not America, that's for sure. The American govt and those acting in its stead are not judges and executioners.

Act normal while being questioned, detained, arrested. There will be no issue. Fight, run, lead on a chase, attempt to take an officers weapon? You can die.
 
Sure, defend the scumbag doper.

By not defending the doper you are defending those that think it's ok to take the rights of citizens. If they can take his rights they can take mine.
 
What video did you watch? This guy was trying to subdue a fleeing and fight suspect and he stated his intentions, per protocol, numerous times. He just didn't do what he thought he was doing. But he only attempted to use the stun gun because the suspect fled and fought. That makes the suspect at least partially liable.



His judgement wasn't wrong. He chose a non-lethal submission technique. He did grab the wrong weapon, but that wasn't a judgement call, that was a mistake. He never intended to shoot the man.



No its not! It had absolutely nothing to do with it! Watch the video.



The trend I see is the trend of cop hating jack asses pointing at every death of a black man as a clear sign of racism without any proof. Meanwhile, there have been black cops that killed white kids and not one of you assumed that was racist. I wonder why that is? Is it only white cops that are capable of racism? Because if think that when race A kills race B it is automatically racism but the reverse is not, then you are racist against race A.

Why don't you post a cite to show us all the black cops that are shooting white kids..... you could save yourself the trouble, because it just isn't true.... but, since you brought it up, its now your duty to support the statement.

Now, I do not want to suggest that it does not happen, it does. But its not as pervasive as white cops killing blacks, which currently happens twice per week...

http://www.thespectrum.com/story/ne...a-white-cops-kill-black-people-week/14151677/

...so, I gave you a cite, you own me one as well...
 
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Never mind that the guy was a PCP-addled felon who endangered others by running from cops on a police chase..

Endangering people does not carry a death sentence or any sentence w/o due process....
 
I know a gun feels like so many other objects but your "own" gun has a feel to it that is so recognizable from muscle memory it is hard to believe you would mistake something else. Why in the hell did they have a 72 yr old out there in the first place?


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Why don't you post a cite to show us all the black cops that are shooting white kids..... you could save yourself the trouble, because it just isn't true.... but, since you brought it up, its now your duty to support the statement.

Now, I do not want to suggest that it does not happen, it does. But its not as pervasive as white cops killing blacks, which currently happens twice per week...

Data: White cops kill 2 black people a week

...so, I gave you a cite, you own me one as well...

White teen Gilbert Collar killed by black cop Trevis Austin in Alabama mirrors Ferguson - Washington Times

Critics see racial 'double standard' in coverage of police shootings - Washington Times

I assume you'll call those two cops racist? Right?
 
By not defending the doper you are defending those that think it's ok to take the rights of citizens. If they can take his rights they can take mine.

That type of citizen gave up their rights. Especially if he was a convicted felon to begin with.
 
That type of citizen gave up their rights. Especially if he was a convicted felon to begin with.

No. Again you choose to dismiss our Constitutional right to due process....but only for 'some citizens.' Hmmm.
 
Act normal while being questioned, detained, arrested. There will be no issue. Fight, run, lead on a chase, attempt to take an officers weapon? You can die.

Not acting normal is not justification for physical endangerment and death.

And cops are only increasing the amount of fear anyone stopped might have, the more of these abuses that come to light.
 
That type of citizen gave up their rights. Especially if he was a convicted felon to begin with.

And who decides "that type of citizen"? You? God help us.

Just a reminder, felons don't have to give up their rights just because they broke, or are in the process of breaking our laws.

Again, the guy sounds like an a-hole, but I'm not defending him because I like him, I'm defending him because the lines you are drawing are so arbitrary and subjective they can easily be abused.
 
I'd actually have no issue with that, only demand that any loved ones they have pay for their incarceration.

Here I thought I was making some absurd and totally unrealistic suggestions, meant as satire.
 
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