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    Re: Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

    Madness. Even though I'm largely protected by my race and gender, the more the murders that happen, the more afraid I become of police officers.

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    Re: Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Then that means you believe in unequal application of the law.
    How so?

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    Re: Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

    Well, being a man who regularly mistakes left for right and right for left, I must say in a very tense situation maybe an untrained person could do but a trained police officer? That is a big, huge, fatal mistake to make.

    I cannot think how someone mistakes a taser for a gun but if it is an honest mistake he should not be prosecuted but should be fired IMO.
    Wilders is a piece of gutter trash, a gutless populist who has no morality to speak of.

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    Re: Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

    Quote Originally Posted by ggwilder View Post
    Madness. Even though I'm largely protected by my race and gender, the more the murders that happen, the more afraid I become of police officers.
    Why, will your race and gender no longer be cover for your criminal activity?

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    Re: Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Well, being a man who regularly mistakes left for right and right for left, I must say in a very tense situation maybe an untrained person could do but a trained police officer? That is a big, huge, fatal mistake to make.

    I cannot think how someone mistakes a taser for a gun but if it is an honest mistake he should not be prosecuted but should be fired IMO.
    Did you look at the pic? The grip is just like a gun's. Add a great deal of stress and activity to that....
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I have no issue with a drugged out moron getting a lead sandwich.
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    How so?
    Because you are removing both due process and the laws in which the Police are also to abide by based entirely on the nature of the crime and the suspect. With your line of thinking that means if someone runs from the Police they are not necessarily deserving of a "lead sandwich" but if they are a "drugged out moron" then they do. That is classic unequal application of the law, all it takes is being a "drugged out moron" and that person is undeserving of basic rights under the law we afford to everyone. Not just those we agree with.
    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people." - Penn Jillette.

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    Re: Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    It is not justification, but it does go to shared responsibility. Had he not been dealing guns and drugs, he would not have been running from the cops and he wouldn't have been shot. Like I said above, it still is partially the officer's fault. He still has some liability in this. But so does the victim.
    Disagree. The cop is the responsible and professional adult here. It is his job to protect the citizens, including the fleeing suspect. It is his job to determine the appropriate force for the circumstance. He is the one that is supposedly trained on the various scenarios, including the fleeing suspect. I don't know about you, but I leaning toward the idea he used a little too much force, which is a result of his bad judgment.

    Though its not a particularly good idea to run from the law, as you set up circumstances of the other guy's bad judgment, the idea that the suspect is culpable is a bit over the top.

    BTW, the other exasperating factor here was that the suspect was black. In case you haven't seen a trend here, all of these situations that have been discussed on DP have been white police officers shooting at unarmed black men. Maybe I am the only one seeing the pattern. It would be interesting for someone to check that out: is there a pattern?

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    Re: Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Did you look at the pic? The grip is just like a gun's. Add a great deal of stress and activity to that....
    Yes, but the gun and the taser are hopefully on 2 different sides of the body.

    And police officers are trained to realize the difference between the two, one causes injury and is used to apprehend and the other not so much.
    Wilders is a piece of gutter trash, a gutless populist who has no morality to speak of.

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    Re: Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Did you look at the pic? The grip is just like a gun's. Add a great deal of stress and activity to that....
    I imagine they will re-evaluate their reserve officer program...You can't tell me that his age and the fact he was reserve wasn't a factor.

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    Re: Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Yes, but the gun and the taser are hopefully on 2 different sides of the body.

    And police officers are trained to realize the difference between the two, one causes injury and is used to apprehend and the other not so much.
    I realize that, however the affects of stress are very significant and very difficult to train for. I'm not excusing it but I do question a 73 yr old guy out there on the front lines with the potential of being placed in such stressful situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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