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    Re: Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

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    Re: Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    You trying to alter when it is acceptable for the Police to kill someone?
    I have no issue with a drugged out moron getting a lead sandwich.

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    Re: Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

    I didn't notice anyone else mention this previously, but this is very similar to the BART cop in San Francisco who killed a young man when he mistakenly shot him with his gun rather than his taser. That BART cop was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter and was sentenced to 2 years in prison less time served. The BART was also sued and settled for just under $3 million with the family of the victim.

    Seems to me this is what will happen in this case as well. Considering the officer involved here is 73, by the time he's tried, convicted, and sentenced, he may be looking at what amounts to a life sentence if he lives to serve any time.
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    Re: Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I'm saying that if you don't take PCP and start a police chase, this probably won't happen to you.
    While true, that does not mean that taking PCP and starting a police chase means the police can respond in any manner they wish (legal or otherwise.) What you are accidentally implying is based on the actions of the suspect the police can forgo rights and the law acting with no responsibility for their actions. Which would be kin to saying Police are above the law so long as they are dealing with someone who is committing a crime themselves.

    This is not an example of a justifiable lethal force.

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    This is classic Darwin working here. Liberals love that stuff.
    This is not a left or right issue, this is about an understanding of cause and effect. Sure, the suspect is made a series of mistakes, criminal actions, and should have been in a disposition to face charges for those actions. What he did not do was something that justified an on the spot execution, when even the officer that did the killing is saying he did not intend to do so.

    The suspect is not a Darwin award candidate by any stretch of the imagination. This is a criminal act by the suspect which was responded to by a criminal act by the officer.
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    Re: Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I have no issue with a drugged out moron getting a lead sandwich.
    Then that means you believe in unequal application of the law.
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    Re: Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I'm saying that if you don't take PCP and start a police chase, this probably won't happen to you.

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    I am shocked and amazed that a real conservative would hold this viewpoint.
    The dead man was selling a handgun, clearly defending the 2nd amendment, when jack-booted gov't thugs took his life.
    I'm not certain why you're excusing this travesty.
    Maybe the dead guy's complexion has some bearing on your inexplicable support for the cops?
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    Re: Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I didn't notice anyone else mention this previously, but this is very similar to the BART cop in San Francisco who killed a young man when he mistakenly shot him with his gun rather than his taser. That BART cop was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter and was sentenced to 2 years in prison less time served. The BART was also sued and settled for just under $3 million with the family of the victim.

    Seems to me this is what will happen in this case as well. Considering the officer involved here is 73, by the time he's tried, convicted, and sentenced, he may be looking at what amounts to a life sentence if he lives to serve any time.
    He may even get off without jail time but the dept and city/county will be settling a very sample civil suit.
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    Re: Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

    I'd like answers to a few questions:

    1. What was the gun Harris was selling hot?

    2. If it wasn't hot, why did he run?

    3. Did he ever sell a hot gun before?

    4. If he did sell a hot gun before and the weapon was used in a crime or to possibly kill someone, did he apologize to the victim's family?
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    Re: Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

    So what kind of charge are we looking at? Manslaughter? Gross negligence?

    I actually feel a little bad for the cop. He shouldn't have been on the street and I blame his chain of command for permitting it.

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    Re: Cop shoots suspect, mistakes gun for tazer

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I didn't notice anyone else mention this previously, but this is very similar to the BART cop in San Francisco who killed a young man when he mistakenly shot him with his gun rather than his taser. That BART cop was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter and was sentenced to 2 years in prison less time served. The BART was also sued and settled for just under $3 million with the family of the victim.
    The BART case was more egregious in my opinion.
    The BART cop's Taser handle and gun handle were dis-similar, not easily confused.
    In this particular case, from what I've seen and read, the 73 yo's Taser and gun are very similar.
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