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Rubio tells donors he is running for White House

Well, that's yet another candidate that is vastly more qualified than the clueless old bag the Democrats will put forth.

Everyone knows that if Hillary wins it will be by celebrity and not by accomplishments.
 
Does he have a chance?

He's relatively inexperienced. He does have an opportunity to differentiate himself by focusing on "tomorrow" and developing a positive vision coupled with practical solutions for addressing the challenges and realizing the opportunities of tomorrow. He needs to offer a coherent domestic and foreign policy approach. The domestic dimension probably requires more work than the foreign policy one.

If he positions himself effectively and comes across with the kind of empowering and realistic message as described above, he will gain important campaign experience that could serve him well in the future and perhaps give him some VP consideration. The strategic problem he faces is that his mentor Governor Bush would probably have to choose someone outside of Florida to best utilize the VP slot (perhaps Ohio?). Nevertheless, Rubio could still gain an important role within a Bush Administration, were Bush to defeat Clinton or another Democratic Party nominee. Were another Republican to win the nomination, Rubio could have a good chance at the VP slot.

Fringe candidates e.g., Carson, or the more libertarian-oriented Paul would choose someone else. Moreover, Rubio would not benefit from affiliating with either of them were he considered given the fundamental differences between their positions and his without risking the credibility he would accumulate from mounting an effective run for the nomination.
 
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:lamo Now, that was funny!



I don't know. Rubio will first have to define for the nation "what IS the American Dream"? It USE to be land/home ownership and living a comfortable middle-class lifestyle with incomes that fostered such a lifestyle while also allowing for leisure time activity and setting funds aside for a rainy day. But that "dream" has become so muddied over the years and more difficult to obtain even for those of us who put in a 40-hour work week.

So, his first challenge will have to be articulating exact what that "dream" is and how the Average Joe can turn it into reality. (Translation: Economic policy) If he's able to clearly define this dream, he would have at least gotten over one hurdle. His second: Open up that so-called "big tent" Republicans claim to possess. Right now, HIS party doesn't appear to embrace all comers.

I don't know....I don't like the idea of them attempting to define the American dream. First off, that means something different for all Americans. Secondly, the President doesn't get elected to fulfill dreams. I'd rather know what he plans to do to make DC less dysfunctional, how he's going to keep us safe, and what he's going to do to keep Isis out, and all of that.
 
I'm not looking for someone to transform America.

Greetings, tres borrachos. :2wave:

Neither am I, and judging by the unending amount of people who are illegally crossing our borders to get here, most of them must think we are quite okay the way we are! :shock:
 
Greetings, tres borrachos. :2wave:

Neither am I, and judging by the unending amount of people who are illegally crossing our borders to get here, most of them must think we are quite okay the way we are! :shock:

America doesn't need transforming. And you're right Pol, look at all of the people who want to move here and enjoy what we have.
 
Everyone knows that if Hillary wins it will be by celebrity and not by accomplishments.

The only legitimate elections are when my guy wins!
 
Rubio tells donors he is running for White House

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MIAMI (AP) — Sen. Marco Rubio is telling his top donors that he is running for president because he feels "uniquely qualified" to pitch his Republican Party as one that will defend the American Dream.

The first-term Republican from Florida told his biggest backers on a conference call on Monday that he sees the coming presidential campaign as a choice between the past and the future. In a swipe at Democratic rival Hillary Rodham Clinton, Rubio said the former first lady "is a leader from yesterday."

Rubio says he has always felt the United States is about tomorrow.


Does he have a chance?

Only if we've given up on sovereignty. Rubios shown his colors on that ussue.
 
Rubio seems to poll very well with women.
I think his strongest attribute is foreign affairs. And the way things are going that might be what this election will hinge on
He is quite an articulate speaker
 
:lamo Now, that was funny!



I don't know. Rubio will first have to define for the nation "what IS the American Dream"? It USE to be land/home ownership and living a comfortable middle-class lifestyle with incomes that fostered such a lifestyle while also allowing for leisure time activity and setting funds aside for a rainy day. But that "dream" has become so muddied over the years and more difficult to obtain even for those of us who put in a 40-hour work week.

So, his first challenge will have to be articulating exact what that "dream" is and how the Average Joe can turn it into reality. (Translation: Economic policy) If he's able to clearly define this dream, he would have at least gotten over one hurdle. His second: Open up that so-called "big tent" Republicans claim to possess. Right now, HIS party doesn't appear to embrace all comers.
good thought.
we know what the Dems offer, class warfare ( and to be fair I'm sick of the 1%'rs getting everything ).

The trick for me is seeing more then class envy, or top heavy taxation to 'equalize' -
there has to be more then just simple re-distribution of income.
How exactly this is done??...if anyone can flesh out some ideas they would get my rapt attention
 
I don't know....I don't like the idea of them attempting to define the American dream. First off, that means something different for all Americans. Secondly, the President doesn't get elected to fulfill dreams. I'd rather know what he plans to do to make DC less dysfunctional, how he's going to keep us safe, and what he's going to do to keep Isis out, and all of that.
i'm with you on the DC dysfunction.
Hyper-partisanship in place of ability to actually get anything done is a big issue.
 
Lol, he has no chance of winning. Why Republicans even put these kind up is beyond me. They're the John Edwards of the Republican party. They look good on paper, but they're irrelevant to the country's politics in the grand scheme of things.
 
Rubio seems to poll very well with women.
I think his strongest attribute is foreign affairs. And the way things are going that might be what this election will hinge on
He is quite an articulate speaker


Agree to disagree, but his 2013 anti-gay voting pattern will be the elephant in the room that squashes his chances in the current national climate.
 
Lol, he has no chance of winning. Why Republicans even put these kind up is beyond me. They're the John Edwards of the Republican party. They look good on paper, but they're irrelevant to the country's politics in the grand scheme of things.

The Republicans didn't put him up. He put himself up. The Republicans haven't anointed their candidate.

People should be encouraged to enter these races. Having a competitive primary field makes the candidate stronger. Just because you don't think his opinions are right (and I don't necessarily think so either) doesn't mean other people don't. I disagree with the mindset of "he shouldn't be in the race"....for anyone.
 
good thought.
we know what the Dems offer, class warfare ( and to be fair I'm sick of the 1%'rs getting everything ).

The trick for me is seeing more then class envy, or top heavy taxation to 'equalize' -
there has to be more then just simple re-distribution of income.
How exactly this is done??...if anyone can flesh out some ideas they would get my rapt attention

Thing is, income redistribution and wealth redistribution can't be done without a far more intrusive and invasive government with which to make it happen. Even with the steps that Obama has taken in this direction, the loud wails and gnashing of teeth, prevented more steps in this direction (which frankly I think is good).

Whether you like it or not, the market has determined which job roles gain what sort of compensation. Even with intrusive government interference, it's not likely to change very much.
 
This election is gonna get real nasty, real quick.

Especially within the GOP for the nomination.
The countdown to the first debate in Ohio in August is on .

Yeah, but aren't they / don't they all?
And you'd think that the RNC would have caught a clue that it's not a positive with the electorate, all this beating each other to death during the primaries.

we just don't have True leaders anymore.

I fear that you are right. Now we get pre-packaged, pre-tested, sound bite retail politics and the politicians to match. None of them actually stand for something concrete anymore. It's all turned into sounds bites that sound good but have little meaning.

Everyone knows that if Hillary wins it will be by celebrity and not by accomplishments.

Indeed. But then look at the percentage of the electorate which hangs on every word uttered by Celebutards from Hollyweird, literally legions of them.

Rubio seems to poll very well with women.
I think his strongest attribute is foreign affairs. And the way things are going that might be what this election will hinge on
He is quite an articulate speaker

Indeed Rubio is very articulate, and does well on camera (especially lately from what he started out with). However, he still needs some seasoning, executive experience I think, and a VP spot would be a great way to get it, or a governorship after his Senate term.

In other words do you think that the electorate would go for another single term Senator as POTUS, and I'm not sure they will.
 
You mean like Obama had when he was elected?:confused:

Well, yeah, because the failed Obama Presidency was fait accompli on election day 2008.
 
and yet, with such foresight, and 4 years to unseat him, the failed RMoney Candidacy was all you could offer on election day 2012.

Oh, it was me who offered Romney in 2012?
 
The Republicans didn't put him up. He put himself up. The Republicans haven't anointed their candidate.

People should be encouraged to enter these races. Having a competitive primary field makes the candidate stronger. Just because you don't think his opinions are right (and I don't necessarily think so either) doesn't mean other people don't. I disagree with the mindset of "he shouldn't be in the race"....for anyone.
I think what he was trying to say is that Rubio is a relative newbie and his presence in the field only serves to detract from the more veteran candidates.;)
 
good thought.
we know what the Dems offer, class warfare ( and to be fair I'm sick of the 1%'rs getting everything ).

The trick for me is seeing more then class envy, or top heavy taxation to 'equalize' -
there has to be more then just simple re-distribution of income.
How exactly this is done??...if anyone can flesh out some ideas they would get my rapt attention

In a word: EDUCATION

Specifically, truly live up to America's capitalistic ideals. If free market capitalism is what this country is truly all about, then the way to truly turn things around is to teach the nation's people about the world of finance. I'm not talking about a basic economics class. I'm talking about a complete course study OR perhaps aspects of financial literacy could be taught from elementary school through high school. Our public education system got away from doing this even in high school several years ago. The idea is finally making a revival which is a good thing. But if you want to change things and get away from this "US -vs- THEM", rich -vs- poor issue, the best way to do it is to education your nation's people about money! For too long this has been left up to individual households to do. Unfortunately, not all "heads of household" have a true understanding about finances. You'd be surprised, for example, to know how many millennials really don't know how to balance a checkbook. (Of course, to be honest most of us who are one generation above rely on spreadsheets and calculating apps to "do the math" for us. So...:shrug:)

Now, there will always be some people who won't get the lesson. And these people will struggle financially. Moreover, there will always be poor people among any society. That's a given. Additionally, I fully understand that there will be people on both ends of the financial spectrum who will be irresponsibly with their money, but I'm of the opinion that the more you teach people about the world of finance even on a basic level, the more responsible financial stewards you'll have. And most of those will go on to be savers and investors, not spend thrifts.

From there anything is possible. For example, if you want to go on to take more advanced courses in finance, i.e., become a CPA, you can do that. But you'd have the basics in financial literacy down beforehand. To me, that's a good thing.
 
Yeah, but aren't they / don't they all?
And you'd think that the RNC would have caught a clue that it's not a positive with the electorate, all this beating each other to death during the primaries.



I fear that you are right. Now we get pre-packaged, pre-tested, sound bite retail politics and the politicians to match. None of them actually stand for something concrete anymore. It's all turned into sounds bites that sound good but have little meaning.



Indeed. But then look at the percentage of the electorate which hangs on every word uttered by Celebutards from Hollyweird, literally legions of them.



Indeed Rubio is very articulate, and does well on camera (especially lately from what he started out with). However, he still needs some seasoning, executive experience I think, and a VP spot would be a great way to get it, or a governorship after his Senate term.

In other words do you think that the electorate would go for another single term Senator as POTUS, and I'm not sure they will.

The liberal run education system has successfully dumbed down America, so they can win by popularity alone.
 
wouldn't it be nice if there was no superpac and candidates could only raise a set amount of money they could spend on a campaign and if they exceded their limits they would be disqualified immediately!
 
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